labelle@hplabsc.UUCP (WB6YZZ La Belle) (06/13/84)
Does anyone remember the "remember"/ core dump scene in
ST II ? Was it really there, or was this filmed for STIII??
GEORGEbarnett@ut-sally.UUCP (06/14/84)
[Phasers on stun...]
I just saw STII last week at the Texas Union theater, and yes, Spock does
indeed place his fingers lightly upon the unconscious McCoy's face and
whisper, "Remember."
Lewis Barnett,CS Dept, Painter Hall 3.28, Univ. of Texas, Austin, TX 78712
-- barnett@ut-sally.ARPA, barnett@ut-sally.UUCP,
{ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!barnettokie@ihuxs.UUCP (B.K. Cobb) (06/14/84)
The "core dump" sequence really was in STII. It just happened so fast that you didn't really have time to think about it until later; there was too much else going on at the moment to stop and ponder that action, and thus it tends to get lost in the "remembering." B.K. Cobb ihnp4!ihuxs!okie
will@sdchema.UUCP (Will Doolittle) (06/16/84)
I don't remember myself, but a friend of mine rented a tape of STII: TWoK a day before seeing STIII, and he said this clip was indeed in STII. Of course, they may have put it in the tape when they made it...
barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (06/16/84)
In article <1946@hplabsc.UUCP> labelle@hplabsc.UUCP writes: > Does anyone remember the "remember"/ core dump scene in > ST II ? Was it really there, or was this filmed for STIII?? > > GEORGE Yup, it was there. The only people who might not have seen it are those who were involved in the pre-release screenings. It was added when Harve Bennett (co-writer/producer) decided (from the reactions to the screenings) that he wanted to leave room to bring Spock back in the next "episode". They also added the shot of the casket having landed on the Geesis planet, and some of the dialogue/monologue at the end (McCoy: "He's not really dead, as long as we remember him," Kirk: "I know I must return...", and Kirk: "Spock said 'There are always possibilities.'"). -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar
pedz@smu.UUCP (06/18/84)
#R:hplabsc:-194600:smu:18200005:000:409 smu!pedz Jun 17 22:53:00 1984 I actually noticed the sequence the second time I saw STII (before I saw STIII) and it bewildered me since I could not make sense of it at that time. I just passed it off as one of those things which was to tie in with something which was left on the cutting room floor. Little did I realize... The greater the complexity of the mind, The greater the need for the simplecity of play. Perry convex!smu!pedz
jay@smu.UUCP (06/19/84)
#R:hplabsc:-194600:smu:18200007:000:256 smu!jay Jun 19 14:52:00 1984 Some people may get confused from the fact that the "Remember..." sequence was not in the novelization. (I wonder how the author felt when she noticed that? But, as was pointed out, the scene might(was?) put in later to appease those who wanted an Out.)
jrb@wdl1.UUCP (jrb ) (06/22/84)
#R:hplabsc:-194600:wdl1:2700005:000:644 wdl1!jrb Jun 22 11:20:00 1984 Also remember that when filming was started on STII, Nimoy still wanted out of the series (because of the bad taste in the mouth from STI). It wasn't until the filming was well underway for STII that he changed his mind. Since the shooting script must have been given to Vonda McIntyre before filming started (in order for it to be released at the same time as the film), she was not able to include it. In the novelisation of STIII all that is mentioned (by my recollection) is that Spock had melded with McCoy before going into the chamber. John R Blaker UUCP: ...!fortune!wdl1!jrb ARPA: jrb@FORD-WDL1 and blaker@FORD-WDL2