otto@whuxle.UUCP (George V.E. Otto) (06/14/84)
Well, there *was* a "remember" scene in STII. It was the subject of much discussion in this group about the possibility of Spock's jumping over into McCoy's body and using it for awhile. This was also tied to the statement McCoy made at the funeral: Spock is not dead as long as we remember him. However, I would be interested in hearing from someone who is in a position to compare the two films. It appeared to me (but maybe in the two years since the last film my memory lost some of its accuracy) that Spock's manoever in the STIII *remember* scene was more pronounced (a more complicated Vulcan hand position) than what was shown in STII. It now appears so telegraphed that it is hard to believe that anyone could have missed the significance of the event. On the other hand, with so much happening in STII at the time, it might just have appeared as just one more detail in a complicated sequence of events. Can anyone compare these two films and let this group know the results? George Otto AT&T Bell Labs, Whippany ------------------------
disc@houxz.UUCP () (06/18/84)
Let this machine eat STATIC! I saw STII both before and a day or two after STIII. The "remember" scenes are identical. It IS hard to understand why it seemed to have little significance at the time, but I think the "zoom" Kirk used may have made it seem different and give the scene more weight than it originally had. SJBerry
jay@smu.UUCP (06/19/84)
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smu!jay Jun 19 14:58:00 1984
I can't vouch for or against, but I think the scenes were different. The
feel and look of them (ignoring the black and white) was different. It may
have been that they took one of the other "takes" of that scene and used
it.
As for computer visual records... Why can't they just pick a good position
for the logical placement of holo-cameras and use a shot from that angle.
I know, I know, with high resolution holo-images, ANY view could be
manufactured from the original, but film makers seem to be extraordinarily
dense about what is logical and what isn't (at least they don't logically
explain they're rational).jrb@wdl1.UUCP (jrb ) (06/22/84)
#R:whuxle:-44400:wdl1:2700006:000:273 wdl1!jrb Jun 22 11:22:00 1984 The difference in the scenes in the two films was because they shortened the scene for playback without shortening the dialogue. The funeral scene was definitely re-filmed. John R Blaker UUCP: ...!fortune!wdl1!jrb ARPA: jrb@FORD-WDL1 and blaker@FORD-WDL2