[net.startrek] Yet Another STIII Reaction

mat@hou5d.UUCP (06/24/84)

>	Does anyone have a reaction to Kirk's last words to Kruge
>	on the Genesis planet? ("Damn you! I have had-enough-
>	of YOU!") To me this was T.J. Hooker speaking - not James
>	T. Kirk! It just doesn't sound like him! Well, perhaps
>	losing David and his "lady" (the Enterprise) took it's
>	toll.

I guess I can't follow all the Klingons, but was it Kruge on the planet?
I thought that Kruge was back on the Bird-Of-Prey?

As to the line ... I kind of think that it is J.T.K.'s reaction to Klingons
in general, and a careerful of abuse from them.  Try to be nice and look what
they do to you!  Try to keep you borders clean and look what they do to you!
Bad guys!  They don't even use Sure.  They like it gross! (foam. flruzzl.)

It's also a sort of a throwback to that wonderful Popeye (tm of someone-or-
other) line:  ``I've had all I can stands -- I can't stands no more!''.
This was where he would stop playing by the book, or by the Golden Rule.
(``do unto others as you would they do unto you'') Instead, the Iron Law in
us all comes out (``do unto others as they would do unto you'').

I rather enjoyed it, being of a nasty mind when it comes to Klingons.
And it let us hear what most of us would like to be able to say from time
to time.
-- 

	from Mole End			Mark Terribile
		(scrape .. dig )	hou5d!mat
    ,..      .,,       ,,,   ..,***_*.  (soon hou4b!mat)

josie@ihuxw.UUCP (Johanna Clementz) (06/29/84)

Mister Wayne...you must learn to control your emotions!
(sorry - that was the Spock in me talking)

Valkris was NOT Kruge's mistress; as stated in the STIII
novelizaion...

	 The merchant captain turned on Valkris in a fury.
	 "What's going on? When do we get paid off?"
	 "Soon, Captain," Valkris said, "Quite soon." She
	 spoke again, in formal tongue, to Kruge
	 "Success, Commander. And my love." She did love
	 him, indeed, as the instrument of her bloodline's
	 redemption.
	
	 ...

	The few remaining bits of debris tumbled away. Kruge felt
	completely satisfied. His only regret was never meeting
	Valkris face to face. He had heard much of her, both
	before her bloodline came to grief and after. Her
	information would win for him a great triumph;
	her death would return her family to its previous
	place in their society's hierarchy.
	
It is unfortunate that the deal Kruge and Valkris had made
was not mentioned in the movie version. Apparently, helping
Kruge bring home the "ultimate weapon" would redeem her 
family's status and nobility that had been besmotched by
her playboy brother (Hard to imagine a playboy Klingon! -
just a Wild and'a Crazy Guy).

I would like to see more about the Klingon way of life in
future movies ( the most I've seen has been in the novel
"The Final Reflection").

Does anyone have a reaction to Kirk's last words to Kruge
on the Genesis planet? ("Damn you! I have had-enough-
of YOU!") To me this was T.J. Hooker speaking - not James
T. Kirk! It just doesn't sound like him! Well, perhaps
losing David and his "lady" (the Enterprise) took it's
toll.
-- 


"I'll be gettin' back to my machines noo"

					Josie Clementz
					ihuxw!josie