[net.startrek] Spock's Age

m1b@rayssd.UUCP (12/05/84)

	New questions for the panel of exeperts!

	I seem to recall that (before STIII) Spock was reported to be
111 years old.  I'm very unsure of the source -- either the pilot with
Captain Pike or out of the Star Trek Reader series of books.  First of
all, can anyone substantiate this?  Secondly, if this is true, what type
of years are these -- Vulcan or Earther?  And, finally, if Spock is
111 Earth years old, how can his mother, Amanda, still be kicking?!!

	I don't think Earth medical care by the 23rd century is enough
to prolong life that much.  In STII & STIII, Kirk is concerned with be-
coming old after a mere 20 odd years of service.  (15 years between first
appearance of Khan and second appearance + ~3 years as Captain of the
Enterprise before the first appearance of Khan + ~x years as Ensign on up.)

	Another good question!  How old is James T. Kirk (as opposed
to William Shatner), and how long has he been with Starfleet?

	Hope to hear from you soon!

Joe Barone,		{allegra, decvax!brunix, ccieng5}!rayssd!m1b
Raytheon Co,		 Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI

"This isn't MY planet, monkeyboy."

adolph@ssc-vax.UUCP (Mark Adolph) (12/07/84)

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> 	New questions for the panel of exeperts!
> 
> 	I seem to recall that (before STIII) Spock was reported to be
> 111 years old.  I'm very unsure of the source -- either the pilot with
> Captain Pike or out of the Star Trek Reader series of books.  First of
> all, can anyone substantiate this?  Secondly, if this is true, what type
> of years are these -- Vulcan or Earther?  And, finally, if Spock is
> 111 Earth years old, how can his mother, Amanda, still be kicking?!!

From "Jouney to Babel": Spock's father was 102.?? years old.  Therefore,
Spock was probably younger.

> 	Another good question!  How old is James T. Kirk (as opposed
> to William Shatner), and how long has he been with Starfleet?

From "The Deadly Years": Kirk insists that he is only 34 years old.  Add
the years before STII:WOK, and you understand why, in that movie, he was
celebrating his 50th birthday.

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friedman@uiucdcs.UUCP (12/11/84)

More on Kirk's age:  In "Obsession", it is mentioned that his first encounter
with the cloud vampire was 11 years previous, when he was a Lt. on his first
space assignment.  Assuming that he joined that ship as an ensign, and was
promoted without being reassigned; and assuming that he spent perhaps two years
as an ensign; and assuming that they ran across the cloud vampire shortly after
his promotion (the weakest of these assumptions); and assuming that he was 34
in "Obsession", as in "The Deadly Years"; then you calculate that he was
commissioned as an ensign when he was about 21 years old, which seems about
right.

mnw@trwrba.UUCP (Michael N. Washington) (12/12/84)

>	New questions for the panel of exeperts!
>
>	I seem to recall that (before STIII) Spock was reported to be
>111 years old.  I'm very unsure of the source -- either the pilot with
>Captain Pike or out of the Star Trek Reader series of books.  First of
>all, can anyone substantiate this?  Secondly, if this is true, what type
>of years are these -- Vulcan or Earther?  And, finally, if Spock is
>111 Earth years old, how can his mother, Amanda, still be kicking?!!
>
>	I don't think Earth medical care by the 23rd century is enough
>to prolong life that much.  In STII & STIII, Kirk is concerned with be-
>coming old after a mere 20 odd years of service.  (15 years between first
>appearance of Khan and second appearance + ~3 years as Captain of the
>Enterprise before the first appearance of Khan + ~x years as Ensign on up.)
>
>	Another good question!  How old is James T. Kirk (as opposed
>to William Shatner), and how long has he been with Starfleet?
>
>	Hope to hear from you soon!
>
>Joe Barone,		{allegra, decvax!brunix, ccieng5}!rayssd!m1b
>Raytheon Co,		 Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI
>
>"This isn't MY planet, monkeyboy."

I really do not remember how old Spock is, I just remember vague references.

I do feel that human age would have been increased quite a bit by the 23rd
Century.  Just look at the increase in lifespan since the beginning of this
century compared to the average lifespan now.  I suspect that living well
over 100 earth years in the 23rd century would be the norm.  And living
in space aboard a space ship would lengthen your lifespan (I think).
A body is not subjected to the planetary gravitational forces and it's
wear and tear on the body.  On the other hand, you could not be subjected
to too much radiation such as traveling too close to a star.  However, in
a few of the episodes, reference to 74 years was considered to be old!  
Also, much medical knowledge was obtained from the Fibrini decendants
which I am sure the Federation scientists and medical researchers 
incorporated into the general medical knowledge.

For what it is worth, I cannot imagine that this would be considered old!!

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Michael N. Washington
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