jimc@haddock.UUCP (03/09/85)
Many have said that "The Enterprise Incident" was based on the 1968 Pueblo Incident. Could someone out there please explain to me what that was? Feel free to message me if you don't feel this has enough in common with the subject of Star Trek to warrant attention in this newsgroup. Jim Campbell
tedi@dartvax.UUCP (Edward M. Ives) (03/11/85)
> Many have said that "The Enterprise Incident" was based on the 1968 Pueblo > Incident. Could someone out there please explain to me what that was? > > Feel free to message me if you don't feel this has enough in common > with the subject of Star Trek to warrant attention in this newsgroup. > > Jim Campbell *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** I think the U.S.S. Pueblo was involved in Vietnam in 1968 or something, and they went up a river into a country where they had no right to be, and got caught. They were supposedly on some kind of spy mission or something, but the U.S. government wouldn't admit it. The country may have been China(?). And yes, David Gerrold's books keep mentioning that The Enterprise Incident was based on this (does anyone have any info other than my free-associations about this)? -Ted Ives philabs!ihnp4!dartvax!tedi w x q w x q
m1b@rayssd.UUCP (03/14/85)
> >> Many have said that "The Enterprise Incident" was based on the 1968 Pueblo >> Incident. Could someone out there please explain to me what that was? >> >> Feel free to message me if you don't feel this has enough in common >> with the subject of Star Trek to warrant attention in this newsgroup. >> >> Jim Campbell > > *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** > I think the U.S.S. Pueblo was involved in Vietnam in 1968 or something, and > they went up a river into a country where they had no right to be, and got caught. > They were supposedly on some kind of spy mission or something, but the U.S. > government wouldn't admit it. The country may have been China(?). > And yes, David Gerrold's books keep mentioning that The Enterprise Incident was > based on this (does anyone have any info other than my free-associations about > this)? > -Ted Ives > philabs!ihnp4!dartvax!tedi I can't believe I'm *that* old! (A mere 26!) The Pueblo was an American spy ship disguised as some type of non-military ship that was off the coast of North Korea. I'm not certain if they were in inter- national waters or not, but the North Koreans boarded her and captured the entire crew. Because the Pueblo was disguised, she had no weapons to speak of besides sidearms so she surrendered without a fight. Even so, I believe there were a few casualties. The North Koreans kept the crew prisoner for several months, refusing to release them until the US admitted to spying. I believe that the US finally conceded and the crew was released. Joe Barone, {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5}!rayssd!m1b Raytheon Co, Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI 02871
andrew@orca.UUCP (Andrew Klossner) (03/15/85)
>> Many have said that "The Enterprise Incident" was based on the 1968 Pueblo >> Incident. Could someone out there please explain to me what that was? > I think the U.S.S. Pueblo was involved in Vietnam in 1968 or something, > and they went up a river into a country where they had no right to be, > and got caught. They were supposedly on some kind of spy mission or > something, but the U.S. government wouldn't admit it. The country may > have been China(?). And yes, David Gerrold's books keep mentioning > that The Enterprise Incident was based on this (does anyone have any > info other than my free-associations about this)? The Pueblo was an electronic espionage ship; its crew listened in on enemy communications, and usually had to decode them. In 1968 it was cruising off the shore of North Korea when it was taken over by a North Korean ship and brought to port. The crew was taken ashore and kept for about a year while being subjected to frequent interrogation and pressure to make anti-US statements in front of TV cameras. They were eventually released and brought back to the US. The ship's captain may have been court martialed, but my memory gets very foggy here. There was never really any question that the Pueblo was spying. The controvery was as to whether the Pueblo was doing so legally, in international waters, or whether it had strayed into North Korean waters. Although it was never really settled, world opinion held that the crew had screwed up and gotten too close to shore. -- Andrew Klossner (decvax!tektronix!orca!andrew) [UUCP] (orca!andrew.tektronix@csnet-relay) [ARPA]
root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) (03/29/85)
> > Many have said that "The Enterprise Incident" was based on the 1968 Pueblo > > Incident. Could someone out there please explain to me what that was? > > I think the U.S.S. Pueblo was involved in Vietnam in 1968 or something, and > they went up a river into a country where they had no right to be, and got caught. > They were supposedly on some kind of spy mission or something, but the U.S. > government wouldn't admit it. The country may have been China(?). Or maybe they invaded Cincinatti or something and *oh* I know the Pueblo was a floating motel for boat-people back during Vietnam and..... WHAT ARE THEY TEACHING YOU PEOPLE IN SCHOOL!!!????? .... or something -- UUCP: ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!seismo!trwatf!root - Lord Frith ARPA: trwatf!root@SEISMO "And Frith made the world"