m1b@rayssd.UUCP (04/03/85)
In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise,
Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold"
or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb?
His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the
Enterprise 15 years before. He tells Chekov on Ceti Alpha 5 that
he has been marooned so I would think that he had no other contact
with the outside world. Did his wife start quoting alien proverbs
before her death or what?! Did the Reliant have a library file on
nasty sayings? When did he have time to read them? :-)
Any thoughts on this (or does anyone care)?
Joe Barone, {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5}!rayssd!m1b
Raytheon Co, Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI 02871john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) (04/05/85)
>From: m1b@rayssd.UUCP >Message-ID: <683@rayssd.UUCP> > > In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, >Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" >or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? >His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the >Enterprise 15 years before. Ah, yes, but when he was on the Enterprise, he made extensive use of the ship's library. (How else would he have learned enough to take it over.) It is likely that a neo-renaissance man such as Kahn would stude more than just technical journals. -- Name: John Ruschmeyer US Mail: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ 07764 Phone: (201) 222-6600 x366 UUCP: ...!vax135!petsd!moncol!john ...!princeton!moncol!john ...!pesnta!moncol!john Silly Quote: "Ah, but what is a dream but reality without a backbone?"
avolio@decuac.UUCP (Frederick M. Avolio) (04/05/85)
> In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, > Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" > or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? Don't you remember in Space Seed when he was getting well (I was going to say convalescing, but cannot spell it...) he sat there speed reading books, technical manuals, and, I guess, The Klingons' version of the Little Red Book? -- Fred Avolio {decvax,seismo}!decuac!avolio 301/731-4100 x4227
herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS]) (04/05/85)
In article <683@rayssd.UUCP> m1b@rayssd.UUCP writes: > > In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, >Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" >or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? >His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the >Enterprise 15 years before. He tells Chekov on Ceti Alpha 5 that >he has been marooned so I would think that he had no other contact >with the outside world. Did his wife start quoting alien proverbs >before her death or what?! Did the Reliant have a library file on >nasty sayings? When did he have time to read them? :-) > > Any thoughts on this (or does anyone care)? > > >Joe Barone, {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5}!rayssd!m1b >Raytheon Co, Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI 02871 he had time when he was studying up on the enterprise in sick bay. since we don't know how fast he could read, he could have read the entire section on klingon myths, legends, and history, as well as caught up on 200+ years of gossip :-). Herb Chong... I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!water!watdcsu!herbie CSNET: herbie%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: herbie%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa NETNORTH, BITNET, EARN: herbie@watdcs, herbie@watdcsu
duncan@bgsuvax.UUCP (Comer Duncan) (04/06/85)
If anybody remembers "Space Seed", Khan spent quite a while reading the library tapes of the big E. I remember Kirk mentioning something like "You've been using our computer quite extensively."( or something like that ). He'd be bound to stumble across some Klingon proverbs and trivia of the 23rd century. Here's something to think about, if old Gentleman Jim hadn't been so nice and polite to Khan, by letting him read all the library files, in his first attack at the Enterprise from Reliant, Khan wouldn't have known "right where to hit us" and might not have killed Scotty's nephew, Peter Preston. The reason I'm bringing up Peter's death is that his death may have affected Scotty's repair ability. If our favorite engineer was so greif stricken that it slowed down the speed of fixing the warp engines, thus Spock might not have had to make the final sacrifice, Kirk wouldn't have had to steal the Enterprise, David wouldn't have died, and so on ... I realize that I'm rambling on, but thought that many things could have been changed if Kirk hadn't shown Khan the library files. Hmmm, I wonder what could be changed with the Guardian of Forever, the slingshot effect, and the sort. Hmmmmmmm..... Sean Duncan final sacrifice, Kirk wouldn't have had to s
merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (04/06/85)
> > In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, > Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" > or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? > His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the > Enterprise 15 years before. He tells Chekov on Ceti Alpha 5 that > he has been marooned so I would think that he had no other contact > with the outside world. Did his wife start quoting alien proverbs > before her death or what?! Did the Reliant have a library file on > nasty sayings? When did he have time to read them? :-) > > Any thoughts on this (or does anyone care)? > > > Joe Barone, {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5}!rayssd!m1b > Raytheon Co, Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI 02871 He read the Enterprise's library computer while he was on the Enterprise back in Space Seed. He also has a good memory. -- "It's Dr. Memory!" Peter Merchant
pritch@osu-eddie.UUCP (Norman Pritchett) (04/06/85)
> > In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, > Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" > or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? Don't you remember in "Space Seed" when Khan was recuperating he read through a lot of the ship's library? How do you think he learned to pilot a starship? -- ----------------------------------- Norm Pritchett UUCP: cbosgd!osu-eddie!pritch CSNET: pritch@ohio-state BITNET: TS0017 at OHSTVMA MA-NET: (614) 291-8775
skst@browngr.UUCP (Stefan K. S. Tucker) (04/08/85)
In article <683@rayssd.UUCP> m1b@rayssd.UUCP writes: > > In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, >Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" >or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? >His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the >Enterprise 15 years before. He tells Chekov on Ceti Alpha 5 that >he has been marooned so I would think that he had no other contact >with the outside world. Did his wife start quoting alien proverbs >before her death or what?! Did the Reliant have a library file on >nasty sayings? When did he have time to read them? :-) > > Any thoughts on this (or does anyone care)? > > >Joe Barone, {allegra, decvax!brunix, linus, ccice5}!rayssd!m1b >Raytheon Co, Submarine Signal Div., Portsmouth, RI 02871 obviously, he learned the proverb when he was rapidly scanning the Enterprise's library tapes. Remember when Kirk visited him in sickbay? Stefan Tucker Brown University
rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) (04/10/85)
> In STII, right before the Reliant ambushes the Enterprise, > Khan quotes a Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish best served cold" > or some such. My question is: How did Khan come by this proverb? > His only previous encounter with the 23rd century was with the > Enterprise 15 years before. He tells Chekov on Ceti Alpha 5 that > he has been marooned so I would think that he had no other contact > with the outside world. Did his wife start quoting alien proverbs > before her death or what?! Did the Reliant have a library file on > nasty sayings? When did he have time to read them? :-) [JOE BARONE] Actually, all starships have a Stargate/netnews subspace communications computer feed. And there is a Klingon UNIX system on that network, such that net.flame contains a huge number of nasty Klingon witticisms, often posted by that notorious Klingon commander, K'narndt. :-) -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr
martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Joaquim Martillo) (04/11/85)
I have run across this klingon proverb in literature execept it is described as a French proberb. Yehoyaqim Martillo