cwayne@unm-cvax.UUCP (03/22/85)
<Not it, ours> ><A final question directed to trekkie-porno fans>: How many >actresses who have appeared in one or more episodes, have appeared >in centerfolds; specify the actresses, episodes, magazines, and >issues for those of us who may want to do some checking (innocent >of course). The only one I can think of is the girl who played Magda Kovas in "MW". Her name is Susan Denberg. She appeared in a british movie in 1967, so assuming that her centerfold made her "famous enough" to appear in that movie, I'd check the 1966-67 issues. >Sorry... I left out a point that made me think about this. I will grant >that everything you mention above is true (I was thinking that as well) but >then I considered: Can Sarek claim he had nothing to do with Kirk's running >off? (Pardon me if I'm mistaken but) considering Sarek is a member of the >body that quarantined Genesis how can he let Kirk run off to Genesis with >prior knowledge? Wouldn't he be considered an accomplice then? If that were >true then add him to the list of people who have-to-get-out-of-it-this-time. >The least Sarek can be nailed for at this point is aiding and abetting >fugitives (unless he turns them in of course). Remember, Sarek is a diplomat, all he has to do is lie through his teeth that he had no knowledge of what happened, but in the intrest of justice he must give sanctuary to Kirk and crew! While on Vulcan, there's gotta be some sort of confrontation between McCoy and T'Pau. After all he tricked her in letting him inject Kirk with that neural neutralizer. It was disappionting to find out that she was not preforming the ceremony to put Spock's Kaatra back in his body. McCoy would say to Kirk "I won't do it Jim, There's no telling what she could do to me for tricking her like I did fifteen years ago and you know how those Vulcans keep things stuck in their craw!" Kirk would then reply "You know who that is, don't you? That's T'Pau, the only person to turn down a position on the Federation Council!" McCoy will give one final sigh and say "Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not an arcade game!". Later after the ceremony is over we all find out that T'Pau actually respected McCoy for the nerve he had in the first place to trick her. This would have made a nice subplot, with high tension being relieved by conforting humor. > > We all know that James T. Kirk is the best fighter in the > > universe (though there are stronger individuals). The question > > is, therefore: What is your favorite Kirk fight scene. Don't forget the fight with Finnegan! Here you have a twenty year old figthing a thirty year old. After being beat up, Kirk finally asks Finnegan "Why are you here?" Finnegan replies "I'm being what you expect me to be Jim old boy." Then with a smile on his face, he Beats the tar out of Finnegan!! >for assignment as Fleet Commander" As they pull into Space Dock, Kirk >looks out and sees an Excelsior class ship, newly comissioned. Her name? >ENTERPRISE II. Spock says to Kirk "I know what you're thinking, My >friend.".......And the Adventure Continues.. NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! The Enterprise is dead, let her rest in peace! This would be the MOST STUPIDEST move ever made! If you want startrek to turn into a kiddie show like "V" or "Lost in Space", go do it on your own time!!! If Kirk gets a new ship, it must be a new and different vessel! You name houseboats or yachts "<whatever> II", but not starships!!!!!! >Let's face it, if you draw this job, you're chances aren't worth a plug >nickel. After all, isn't it always the young noname crewman on the landing >party who is always the first to be blasted, shot, vaporized, absorbed, >disrupted, or turned into little white cubes? Sounds like the job of being a Marine hasn't changed in over 400 years! Semper Fi, Chris Wayne @ UNM
root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) (03/29/85)
>> <A final question directed to trekkie-porno fans>: How many >> actresses who have appeared in one or more episodes, have appeared >> in centerfolds; specify the actresses, episodes, magazines, and >> issues for those of us who may want to do some checking (innocent >> of course). > > The only one I can think of is the girl who played Magda Kovas in > "MW". Her name is Susan Denberg. She appeared in a british movie > in 1967, so assuming that her centerfold made her "famous enough" > to appear in that movie, I'd check the 1966-67 issues. Don't forget whatshername in "The Gamesters of Tri-skelion." After this episode she did two posters. One in her Tri-skelion fighting outfit, and another without .... >> for assignment as Fleet Commander" As they pull into Space Dock, Kirk >> looks out and sees an Excelsior class ship, newly comissioned. Her name? >> ENTERPRISE II. Spock says to Kirk "I know what you're thinking, My >> friend.".......And the Adventure Continues.. > > NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO! > The Enterprise is dead, let her rest in peace! This would be > the MOST STUPIDEST move ever made! If you want startrek to turn > into a kiddie show like "V" or "Lost in Space", go do it on your > own time!!! If Kirk gets a new ship, it must be a new and > different vessel! You name houseboats or yachts "<whatever> II", > but not starships!!!!!! How about "Shoot-at-me".... -- UUCP: ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!seismo!trwatf!root - Lord Frith ARPA: trwatf!root@SEISMO "And Frith made the world"
brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy) (04/03/85)
<A bug, Jim> >...The Enterprise is dead, let her rest in peace!... >You name houseboats or yachts "<whatever> II", but not starships!!!!!! [About Kirk getting a new ship called "Enterprise" or "Enterprise II"] I'm under the impression that once a ship is destroyed/scrapped in the present day navy, the ship's name is free to be used again. This would permit Kirk's new ship the be christened "Enterprise" since no other ship in the fleet has this name. Personally, I prefer names like the "Vincible", the "Pervious", or the "Pregnable" (I mean, calling a ship the "Indestructable" is asking for trouble :-). Merlyn Leroy "...a dimension between shallow and substance, between science and superficial, a place we call...The Usenet Zone"
sean@ukma.UUCP (Sean Casey) (04/04/85)
> You name houseboats or yachts "<whatever> II", but not starships!!!!!!
Reminds me of a line from Outland. Some nuclear detonators have turned up
missing and Sean Connery asks a subordinate:
"What about those detonators?"
"I guess we lost them", the subordinate replies.
Connery looks upset. He looks the man in the eye, "You
LOSE your COMB; you don't lose nuclear detonators!"
I guess you had to be there...
--
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ARPA: "ukma!sean"@ANL-MCS or sean%ukma.uucp@anl-mcs.arpajackh@zehntel.UUCP (jack hagerty) (04/06/85)
> <A bug, Jim> > > >...The Enterprise is dead, let her rest in peace!... > >You name houseboats or yachts "<whatever> II", but not starships!!!!!! > [About Kirk getting a new ship called "Enterprise" or "Enterprise II"] > > I'm under the impression that once a ship is destroyed/scrapped in the > present day navy, the ship's name is free to be used again. This would > permit Kirk's new ship the be christened "Enterprise" since no other > ship in the fleet has this name. Personally, I prefer names like the > "Vincible", the "Pervious", or the "Pregnable" (I mean, calling a ship > the "Indestructable" is asking for trouble :-). > > Merlyn Leroy Wasn't there a carrier in WWII named "Enterprise"? Was this decommissioned (scrapped) before the current nuclear version? -- Jack Hagerty, Zehntel Automation Systems ...!ihnp4!zehntel!jackh
chenr@tilt.FUN (Ray Chen) (04/08/85)
> Wasn't there a carrier in WWII named "Enterprise"? Was this decommissioned > (scrapped) before the current nuclear version? Yes. I think the Enterprise was the only U.S. carrier in the Pacific Fleet to survive all of WWII. This is stretching my memory a bit, but I believe there was also a sloop (wood & sail type ship) named Enterprise. It's hard to say when a name will get used again. In the case of famous ships who were lost "honorably" in battle, their names are often used again immediately, perhaps in memory of the old ship. For example, the Lexington was sunk in the Battle of Coral Sea and the Yorktown at Midway, and ships with both names were back in commission before the end of WWII. Then again, both the Yorktown and the Lexington got sunk while beating off most of the Japanese Imperial fleet (at very bad odds to boot). The ST Enterprise bit it taking on a Klingon scout ship, so maybe the name won't get re-used for a while... By the way, I think I'll also mention that that was one of the things that really bugged my about ST III. The state of the Enterprise. I mean, we're talking about a 200,000+ -ton heavy cruiser which 10 years ago was the pride of the Fleet and was completely upgraded less than 5 years ago. New warp engines, new computer systems, new hull material, new interior, new defensive systems, new weapons and fire control systems, etc. Practically a new ship. Yet here were people talking like the thing was just a space-going scrap heap. Space-going scrap heaps don't have better defensive systems than the top-of-the-line Klingon battle cruisers (as of ST:TMP) and they don't blow away heavy frigates (the Reliant in ST:TWOK). I could believe that they wouldn't want to spend the money to repair her after the battle with the Reliant, IF AND ONLY IF they were very sure of the technology being tested on the Excelsior AND they had other Excelsior-class ships in the process of being constructed. After all, one ship does not a fleet make. However, in that case, the entire *fleet* is obsolete. Ray Chen princeton!tilt!chenr
herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong [DCS]) (04/08/85)
In article <262@tilt.FUN> chenr@tilt.FUN (Ray Chen) writes: >> Wasn't there a carrier in WWII named "Enterprise"? Was this decommissioned >> (scrapped) before the current nuclear version? > >Yes. I think the Enterprise was the only U.S. carrier in the Pacific Fleet to >survive all of WWII. This is stretching my memory a bit, but I believe >there was also a sloop (wood & sail type ship) named Enterprise. > Ray Chen there have been at least 7 ships in the US Navy with the name Enterprise, not including the current one. CVA's are the only ships nowadays in the US Navy that are allowed to have the names of other ships and famous presidents, admirals, etc. how do i know? well, that's a whole 'nother question. Herb Chong... I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!water!watdcsu!herbie CSNET: herbie%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: herbie%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa NETNORTH, BITNET, EARN: herbie@watdcs, herbie@watdcsu
eagle@ihlpg.UUCP (John Blumenstein) (04/09/85)
> In article <262@tilt.FUN> chenr@tilt.FUN (Ray Chen) writes: > >> Wasn't there a carrier in WWII named "Enterprise"? Was this decommissioned > >> (scrapped) before the current nuclear version? > > > >Yes. I think the Enterprise was the only U.S. carrier in the Pacific Fleet to > >survive all of WWII. This is stretching my memory a bit, but I believe > >there was also a sloop (wood & sail type ship) named Enterprise. > > Ray Chen > > there have been at least 7 ships in the US Navy with the name Enterprise, > not including the current one. CVA's are the only ships nowadays in > the US Navy that are allowed to have the names of other ships and > famous presidents, admirals, etc. how do i know? well, that's a whole > 'nother question. Remember in ST:TMP when they showed V'ger the ship they had a display of all the ships named Enterprise including the prototype of the Space shuttle. -- Sulu: "They say she has transwarp drive." Scotty: "Aye, and if my mother had wheels she would be a wagon." John T. Blumenstein ihlpg!eagle
jrrt@ahuta.UUCP (r.mitchell) (04/09/85)
>there have been at least 7 ships in the US Navy with the name Enterprise, >not including the current one. CVA's are the only ships nowadays in >the US Navy that are allowed to have the names of other ships and >famous presidents, admirals, etc. how do i know? well, that's a whole >'nother question. >Herb Chong... Well, Herb, I'd like to ask how you know that. The ENTERPRISE is a CVN, not a CVA ("N" representing Nuclear-powered). Perhaps a nit. What about SSBNs (Ballistic Missile Submarines)? Whan I was aboard the USS GEORGE WASHINGTON (SSBN 640), I didn't see a single airplane. There are several dozen SSNs (Fast-attack Submarines) that carry the names of World War 2 subs that were sunk by enemy action. Lastly, I'm familiar with several destroyer/frigate classes whose names commemorate WW2 ships. Referring to the original article in this series, certainly the US Navy today does not use numbers in its ships` names (e.g. Enterprise II). This doesn't say squat about what Starfleet would do, of course, since there are numerous examples of differences between current Naval traditions/policies and the way Starfleet does things. Rob Mitchell (LT USNR) {allegra,ihnp4}!ahuta!jrrt
maurice@nmtvax.UUCP (04/12/85)
>>> Wasn't there a carrier in WWII named "Enterprise"? Was this decommissioned >>> (scrapped) before the current nuclear version? >> >>Yes. I think the Enterprise was the only U.S. carrier in the Pacific Fleet to >>survive all of WWII. This is stretching my memory a bit, but I believe >>there was also a sloop (wood & sail type ship) named Enterprise. > >there have been at least 7 ships in the US Navy with the name Enterprise, >not including the current one. CVA's are the only ships nowadays in >the US Navy that are allowed to have the names of other ships and >famous presidents, admirals, etc. how do i know? well, that's a whole >'nother question. The reuse of names for ships is not just limited to aircraft carriers (CV's). The current submarine force is named after cities (attack type), and states (strategic missle type), though as of recent there have been exceptions (Jackson and Rickover). The same goes for cruisers (states). Roger M Levasseur unmvax!nmtvax!maurice
nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (04/18/85)
In days of yore, battleships and battle cruisers were named after states. cruisers and light cruisers were named after cities destroyers and frigates were named after people (abbreviations: BB, BC, CA, CL, DD, FR) smaller surface ships were named after numbers (PT109) -- James C. Armstrong, Jnr. ihnp4!abnji!nyssa In the sight of the Great Video, and of Varos, who gave his name to our planet, we pray that you accept the lives of these humble deviants, in recompense for their sins. We also pray that you look benignly upon us, and down upon your people as servants.