wix@bergil.DEC (Jack Wickwire) (04/30/85)
This is being forwarded through me to NET.STARTREK. I only do some basic formatting and I am not responsible for its content. All responses sent to me will be forwarded to the author. People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven a multitude of sins for having rescued him. To the best of my knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*. I don't think the makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of the novels. Did this line actually originate elsewhere? Marshak and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in the process, but I thought this line was original with them. Does anybody know anything for certain? --------- PDDB
root@idmi-cc.UUCP (Admin) (05/01/85)
> This is being forwarded through me to NET.STARTREK. I only do some basic > formatting and I am not responsible for its content. All responses sent > to me will be forwarded to the author. > > People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back > up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven > a multitude of sins for having rescued him. To the best of my > knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak > and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*. I don't think the > makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of > the novels. Did this line actually originate elsewhere? Marshak > and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes > into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in > the process, but I thought this line was original with them. Does > anybody know anything for certain? > > --------- > PDDB Though I am not sure if the line in question was actualy used in an episode or not, I believe the attitude implied was clearly expressed in "A Journey to Babel" in which everyone wants to know how Spok's daddy Sarek (Mark Leanord) is going to vote on a certain issue because on the Federation council Vulcan carries a lot of weight. ----- "Adventure is when you toss your life on the scales of chance and wait for the pointer to stop." - Murray Leinster (First Contact) Andrew R. Scholnick Information Design and Management Inc., Alexandria, Va. ...seismo!rlgvax!idmi-cc!andrew
josie@ihuxw.UUCP (clementz) (05/01/85)
> This is being forwarded through me to NET.STARTREK. I only do some basic > formatting and I am not responsible for its content. All responses sent > to me will be forwarded to the author. > > People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back > up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven > a multitude of sins for having rescued him. To the best of my > knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak > and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*. I don't think the > makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of > the novels. Did this line actually originate elsewhere? Marshak > and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes > into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in > the process, but I thought this line was original with them. Does > anybody know anything for certain? > > --------- > PDDB The only quote similar to this I can recall is "As Sarek goes, so goes Vulcan" from "Journey to Babel". I don't think saving Spock in itself will help the 'renegades' when they are brought up on charges for stealing the Enterprise. However, I would suspect that the current Vulcan matriarch might intercede on their behalf, and maybe the punishment will not be so severe - Kirk will probably be court- marshalled - he hates his desk job anyway. Knowing Kirk, he'll take full responsibility, so the others may not be punished as severely. Josie Clementz AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, IL (...ihuxw!josie)