[net.startrek] The Canon

wix@bergil.DEC (Jack Wickwire) (04/30/85)

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People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back
up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven
a multitude of sins for having rescued him.   To the best of my 
knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak
and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*.  I don't think the
makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of
the novels.  Did this line actually originate elsewhere?  Marshak
and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes
into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in
the process, but I thought this line was original with them.  Does
anybody know anything for certain?
 
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root@idmi-cc.UUCP (Admin) (05/01/85)

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> formatting and I am not responsible for its content. All responses sent 
> to me will be forwarded to the author. 
> 
> People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back
> up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven
> a multitude of sins for having rescued him.   To the best of my 
> knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak
> and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*.  I don't think the
> makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of
> the novels.  Did this line actually originate elsewhere?  Marshak
> and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes
> into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in
> the process, but I thought this line was original with them.  Does
> anybody know anything for certain?
>  
> ---------
> PDDB

Though I am not sure if the line in question was actualy used in an
episode or not, I believe the attitude implied was clearly expressed
in "A Journey to Babel" in which everyone wants to know how Spok's
daddy Sarek (Mark Leanord) is going to vote on a certain issue because
on the Federation council Vulcan carries a lot of weight.


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josie@ihuxw.UUCP (clementz) (05/01/85)

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> to me will be forwarded to the author. 
> 
> People keep quoting, "As Vulcan goes, so goes the Federation" to back
> up their arguments that Spock is so important Kirk will be forgiven
> a multitude of sins for having rescued him.   To the best of my 
> knowledge, that line is from a "Star Trek" novel by Sondra Marshak
> and Myrna Culbreath, *The Price of the Phoenix*.  I don't think the
> makers of "Star Trek IV" are obliged to pay any attention to any of
> the novels.  Did this line actually originate elsewhere?  Marshak
> and Culbreath do make a habit of interweaving lines from the episodes
> into their dialogue, often changing or deepening the meaning in
> the process, but I thought this line was original with them.  Does
> anybody know anything for certain?
>  
> ---------
> PDDB

The only quote similar to this I can recall is "As Sarek goes, so goes
Vulcan" from "Journey to Babel". I don't think saving Spock in itself
will help the 'renegades' when they are brought up on charges for 
stealing the Enterprise. However, I would suspect that the current
Vulcan matriarch might intercede on their behalf, and maybe the
punishment will not be so severe - Kirk will probably be court-
marshalled - he hates his desk job anyway. Knowing Kirk, he'll
take full responsibility, so the others may not be punished as
severely.

				Josie Clementz
				AT&T Bell Laboratories
				Naperville, IL
				(...ihuxw!josie)