[net.startrek] Transporter time; Re: Transporters

ccs020@ucdavis.UUCP (Kevin Chu) (04/24/85)

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> 
> Such is unnecessary, a transporter need only be fast in human terms.
> It need not even be fast in electronic terms.  Even if it took as long 
> as 100ns this would not be noticeable if it put you back the same way
> as you started (up to quantum uncertainty).  Today we have electronics
> with switching speeds in the 10ns range and by ST time there ought to
> be hardware with ps switching times (the slow hardware that is) and
> lots of parallelism.  However the TV and Movies show a process taking
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> seconds to occur!  This means that the people's state must be suspended
> while this is happening.  If so then there is no problem with the
> person noticing the process of disasembly.
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> (I sure hope this horse I've been kicking is dead!)
> -David Sher
> 
> 
  This can't be so, because in several episodes, the people have be active
  during the transporter process.  An example that comes to mind is the
  episode "That Which Survives" where Kirk et al watch some woman explode 
  every cell of the poor transporter attendant's body.  Also, Kirk or McCoy
  have complained about a "rough beam up", so they must have been aware
  of what was going on.

  However, to support David Sher's "suspended" theory, we have STIIWOK in
  which Kirk and Saavik are in the middle of a conversation while beaming
  up.  (Returning from the Genisis Planet) I doubt that the were talking
  to each other while converted to enery, or whatever.

  As I said before, the transporters should be moved into the catagory of
  inconsistancies, and not be taken too seriously.

		Kevin Chu
		Computer Center Knave
		@ UC Davis

/ex

zubbie@ihlpa.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck) (05/02/85)

>   This can't be so, because in several episodes, the people have be active
>   during the transporter process.  An example that comes to mind is the
>   episode "That Which Survives" where Kirk et al watch some woman explode 
>   every cell of the poor transporter attendant's body.  Also, Kirk or McCoy
>   have complained about a "rough beam up", so they must have been aware
>   of what was going on.
> 
>   However, to support David Sher's "suspended" theory, we have STIIWOK in
>   which Kirk and Saavik are in the middle of a conversation while beaming
>   up.  (Returning from the Genisis Planet) I doubt that the were talking
>   to each other while converted to enery, or whatever.
> 
>   As I said before, the transporters should be moved into the catagory of
>   inconsistancies, and not be taken too seriously.
> 
> 		Kevin Chu
> 		Computer Center Knave
> 		@ UC Davis
> 
> /ex

*** YOUR MESSAGE ***


I dont see any inconsistencies in the transporter from your description.
A rough beam up could be noted as a particular physical sensation
perhaps weakness or nausea after reassembly.

The time internval required is and must be both objective and subjective.
that is at some point transmition occurs. the transportee could be, and
most likely would be fully conscious and aware during scanning. At the
point (instant?) of disassembly consciousness would become static and
time would cease to flow from the viewpoint of the transportee, to
the observer now time continues and perhaps several seconds may pass
before reassembly is complete and transported consciousness returns
in what then (subjectively) is less than the blink of an eye.


..........damn it Jim! I'm a doctor not a tailor....


Jeanette L. Zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpa!zubbie