wanttaja@ssc-vax.UUCP (Ronald J Wanttaja) (05/14/85)
> > I feel that it would be a loss to try to set any type of action in the > sterile bridge of the Excelsior. I do hope that our on-trial crew members, > should they get on-board a starship, would not be forced onto a bridge like > the Excelsior's! > You mean, "a bridge like that of the series." Think about it. A stark set, lotsa open space, matte graphics, brightly lit. Closer in concept to the bridge as shown in the series. Starting with ST-TMP, the bridge set is a large step downhill, *operationally*. It's too dark... the series had established the existance of computer displays readable under bright lighting conditions. Since they wanted to use actual displays in the movies, they had to make the bridge dark. It stinks. In the subsequent movies, the set got a little lighter, but the point still stands. Sulu is taking naps, and nobody can see him. At the risk (hope?) of starting a new line of discussion, I'll push out what some may consider a blasphemous statement: THE ENTERPRISE REDESIGN STANK! I am referring, mostly, to the interior, however, the addition of all those silly little docking ports (have them inside the shuttle bay, and leave the doors open, for gosh sakes), the kluge of the torpedo tube tack-ons, and the warp pods swiped from a Klingon D-7. All right, all right, I did like the flat pods. But the interior was from the dark ages of '50s SF. Remember the interior of the corridors in the series? Wide, brightly lit, with graphics masking structural members. Now take the redesign... stainless steel, with braces every couple feet. Not to mention, DARK. Again! Add that to my earlier comments about the bridge. The outside looked neat, but the interior "orally applied vacuum." Ron Wanttaja (ssc-vax!wanttaja) "Up that rigging, you monkeys, aloft! There's no chains to hold you now!"
ggc@myriasb.UUCP (Gilles Chartrand) (05/15/85)
>THE ENTERPRISE REDESIGN STANK! > > >But the interior was from the dark ages of '50s SF. Remember the interior >of the corridors in the series? Wide, brightly lit, with graphics masking >structural members. Now take the redesign... stainless steel, with braces >every couple feet. Not to mention, DARK. Again! > The corridors of the E are SUPOSED to be like that. In the series, the only reason they were so large was so that the camera crews could get through them! What sort of engineer would design spacious halways for an interstellar battle cruiser? For decoration I must agree with you however. We must keep in mind that the crew may live in the E for years at a time. In my opinion, it's a lot easier to live in place that at least looks nice (even if it is by necessity smaller). Gilles ...!alberta!myriasb!ggc
merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (05/19/85)
> At the risk (hope?) of starting a new line of discussion, I'll push out > what some may consider a blasphemous statement: > > THE ENTERPRISE REDESIGN STANK! > > But the interior was from the dark ages of '50s SF. Remember the interior > of the corridors in the series? Wide, brightly lit, with graphics masking > structural members. Now take the redesign... stainless steel, with braces > every couple feet. Not to mention, DARK. Again! > > Ron Wanttaja I didn't mind the interiors. They made more sense to me. As Gerrold said, the interior was pretty big. And all the power necessary to maintain that space. But in every other episode, Scotty was losing power. Well, hell, cut down those corridors a bit. That might help. In theory, the reason for the bright airy sets and wide corridors and such was because they wanted to try to fit in camera dollies and the like. -- "Space, our corridors..." Peter Merchant
dave@ur-valhalla.UUCP (Dave Carlson) (05/20/85)
Since we seem to have a lot of naval/Trek similarities I thought I
might try to shed some light on this ergonomics issue. Anyone that has been
on a naval vessel (aka ship) while underway may back me up one this.
The CIC (command information center, I think) is the nerve center of
a warship. Everything except the actual steering and sighting
mechanisms are controlled from CIC, which makes it very analogous to the
bridge of the big E. Every CIC I've ever been in has been dimmed to
almost dark. In fact, very reminicent of the lighting on the big E in
question.
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dave
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