[net.startrek] Transporters:a question

nmhr@nmtvax.UUCP (04/26/85)

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A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We 
began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
beam with him?

Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
not beam up. 

Anybody else have any ideas???

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jak@talcott.UUCP (Joe Konstan) (04/30/85)

> A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We 
> began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
> to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
> beam with him?
> 
> Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
> not beam up. 
> 
> Anybody else have any ideas???

That wouldn't make much sense at all, since not only does clothing get
transported, but phasers, communicators, tricorders, daggers, filter
masks (ad infinitum) also do.

Mithrandir
jak@talcott

her3@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Benjamin Andrew Herman) (04/30/85)

A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We
began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
beam with him?
 
Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
not beam up.
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 Oh boy .... lets just call these tranporter inconsistencies numerous!!!
Think about what you said!! this wold mean in the same episode when kirk and
Spock beam down there phasers wold be left behind.
   Think of the numerous episodes where someone grabs onto someone else and getts
beamed along.... If you really want an explaination < which I have never found a satisfying one> try this-- 
    the transporter is a beam operation if a narrow beam hits an object they that object can be beamed aboard (ie. the beam expands itself to include only the extremities of the beamed object). However, if a wide beam is used then al
in the beam are 'beamed' aboard. (ie. nearby rocks, people, phasers,etc.)
that's the best I can do.
  					Drew Herman (her3) 
					@UChicago  <unix>
from ladyhawk 
  -- I talk to God all the time and frankly he's never mentioned you.

wws@whuxlm.UUCP (Stoll W William) (05/02/85)

> > A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We 
> > began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
> > to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
> > beam with him?
> > 
> > Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
> > not beam up. 
> > 
> > Anybody else have any ideas???
> 
> That wouldn't make much sense at all, since not only does clothing get
> transported, but phasers, communicators, tricorders, daggers, filter
> masks (ad infinitum) also do.
> 

I think what the original query meant was that things attached to _things_
which_are_outside_of_the_beam_ don't get transported.  This makes sense
to me.  The receiver of the phone was in the beam, but was attached to
the "whatever the other part of the phone is called" (hook? sniglets,
anyone?) which was outside the beam (or perhaps the hook was in the beam
but the entire extension cord was not...).  If any part of the boss' body
was outside of the beam, he wouldn't have gotten transported either.

Of course, as everybody says, the transporter is one big inconsistency
and there are few if any hard and fast physical laws that we can apply
to it...

Bill Stoll, ..!whuxlm!wws

ugzannin@sunybcs.UUCP (Adrian Zannin) (05/03/85)

> 
> A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We 
> began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
> to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
> beam with him?
> 
> Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
> not beam up. 
> 
> Anybody else have any ideas???
> 
> -- 
> Tracy A. McInvale

   Maybe because Ma Bell (or whatever phone company the Iotians have) would
have charged a replacement fee for the phone...

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showard@udenva.UUCP (showard) (05/07/85)

> A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We
> began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
> to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
> beam with him?
>  
> Our best explanation was that things that are attached to other things do
> not beam up.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Oh boy .... lets just call these tranporter inconsistencies numerous!!!
> Think about what you said!! this wold mean in the same episode when kirk and
> Spock beam down there phasers wold be left behind.
>    Think of the numerous episodes where someone grabs onto someone else and getts
> beamed along.... If you really want an explaination < which I have never found a satisfying one> try this-- 
>     the transporter is a beam operation if a narrow beam hits an object they that object can be beamed aboard (ie. the beam expands itself to include only the extremities of the beamed object). However, if a wide beam is used then al
> in the beam are 'beamed' aboard. (ie. nearby rocks, people, phasers,etc.)
> that's the best I can do.
>   					Drew Herman (her3) 
> 					@UChicago  <unix>
> from ladyhawk 
>   -- I talk to God all the time and frankly he's never mentioned you.

    How about this:  He let go of the phone when the transporter beam hit him?

--Mr Blore, in-house detective, KAOS Radio, University of Denver

sean@ukma.UUCP (Sean Casey) (05/22/85)

> A few nights ago, I watched "A Piece of the Action" with a friend. We
> began wondering: when the Enterprise beams one of the crime bosses over
> to where Kirk is, why doesn't the phone that the crime boss is holding
> beam with him?

My understanding was that the transporter is computer controlled and
selective about what it decides to transport.

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