adolph@ssc-vax.UUCP (Mark Adolph) (05/06/85)
"No beach to walk on..."
Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited
telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker
elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which
a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against
it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his
butt?
-- Mark A.
...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph
"1 + 1 = 1, for sufficiently small values of 1..."rabson@harvard.ARPA (David Rabson) (05/07/85)
> "No beach to walk on..." > > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? > No inconsistency at all. The doors work on a very simple principle: audio signal. They only open when someone in their vicinity say "wshhhh." They close on the same signal.
ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) (05/08/85)
> Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? > > -- Mark A. > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph In one of the animated episodes, the one where the little guys on the planet shrunk everyone, they show that the doors are opened by some sort of photoelectric cells starting a couple inches off the ground. Presumably, the cells also stop at some point ... so the door can tell between somebody leaning against the top of a door or the lower part of somebody's body trying to walk out the door. Lord Kahless
erosenth@aecom.UUCP (Elazar Rosenthal) (05/10/85)
> > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? > > -- Mark A. They probily are slightly intelegent even today automatic lighting systems do not respond to only one stimules nce in one spot
root@trwatf.UUCP (Lord Frith) (05/10/85)
> Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? These are no ordinary doors. Two crewmen operate the doors from behind the bulkheads. With 430 men and women aboard, that means that there would be about 215 automagic doors operational aboard the big E at any one time. Fewer, when principal characters are delivering dialogue on the bridge. -- UUCP: ...{decvax,ihnp4,allegra}!seismo!trwatf!root - Lord Frith ARPA: trwatf!root@SEISMO Nasha Lutcha!
tli@oberon.UUCP (Tony Li) (05/11/85)
> Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? > -- Mark A. > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph > That's because the doors are INTELLIGENT. This another one of those subtle AI applications that really needs to be investigated! ;-) Actually the doors are intelligent. There's a grip up in the catwalks with two poles to open the doors. Cheers, Tony ;-) -- Tony Li ;-) Usc Computer Science Uucp: {sdcrdcf,randvax}!uscvax!tli Csnet: tli@usc-cse.csnet Arpa: tli@usc-ecl
guads@nmtvax.UUCP (05/12/85)
In article <> adolph@ssc-vax.UUCP (Mark Adolph) writes: > >Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited >telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker >elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which >a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against >it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his >butt? > > -- Mark A. > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph Yar! Remember in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," when the cat runs STRAIGHT(!) towards the door? First, what kind of cat would run full tilt into a door? What I thought was neat though, is that the door only opened enough to let the cat out. So, anyway, the door must be able to tell the size of the creature going through the it. Maybe in Spock's case it saw he was crying and figured he needed some privacy... -- -Lautzy (Romulan) ...unmvax!nmtvax!guads
demillo@uwmacc.UUCP (Rob DeMillo) (05/12/85)
> "No beach to walk on..." > > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > butt? > > -- Mark A. > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph > > "1 + 1 = 1, for sufficiently small values of 1..." How about: "...perhaps it feels good about being a door?" Or: "Here's one of those self-satisfied doors again. It's about to open; I can tell by the aire of smuggness it's suddenly generating. It's its pleasure to open for you, and to close again with the satisfaction of a job well done...depressing..." -- --- Rob DeMillo Madison Academic Computer Center ...seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!demillo / =|-- = \ = [][][] "...I don't know what this thing does, but it's pointing in your direction."
ugzannin@sunybcs.UUCP (Adrian Zannin) (05/13/85)
> > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > > butt? > > > > -- Mark A. > > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph > In one of the animated episodes, the one where the little guys on the > planet shrunk everyone, they show that the doors are opened by some sort of > photoelectric cells starting a couple inches off the ground. Presumably, > the cells also stop at some point ... so the door can tell between somebody > leaning against the top of a door or the lower part of somebody's body > trying to walk out the door. > > Lord Kahless Assuming that the dorrs are operated with photoelectric cells, this explanation still leaves an inconsistency. If you take into account the speed with which the characters walk/run when approaching the doors, the photo- electric cells would have to be placed a MINIMUM of 5 feet from the door so that the doors would be activated in time and would be open by the time the person got to it. If this is true, then when Spock went to lean against the door, it should have opened before he even got a change to lean on it. Also, that would mean that everytime someone walked down a corridor, all the doors should open and close as he passed by them (even when poor Janice Rand is taking a shower...thank god for locks!). -- Adrian Zannin ..{burdvax,rocksvax,bbncca,decvax,dual,rocksanne,watmath}!sunybcs!ugzannin BITNET: CS24173@SUNYABVA
julian@osu-eddie.UUCP (Julian Gomez) (05/14/85)
> Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > ... In "The Making of Star Trek", Roddenberry describes how they had a stagehand sitting around waiting for a cast member to get close enough, and would then push the button to open the doors. This technique makes it pretty easy to keep the doors closed when Spock has to lean against them. -- Julian "a tribble took it" Gomez The Ohio State University {ucbvax,decvax}!cbosg!osu-eddie!julian
cej@ll1.UUCP (One of the Jones Boys) (05/14/85)
> > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > > ... > > In "The Making of Star Trek", Roddenberry describes how they had a > stagehand sitting around waiting for a cast member to get close > enough, and would then push the button to open the doors. This > technique makes it pretty easy to keep the doors closed when Spock > has to lean against them. > -- > {ucbvax,decvax}!cbosg!osu-eddie!julian Actually in "The Making of Star Trek" he discribes how they had stagehands pull the doors open by hand because they couldn't find a mechanism that could open the doors quick enough. In the famous (and grainy) ST blooper reel you can just hear a stagehand yell "Door's stuck!" before Shatner walks right into the bridge elevavator door, which he expects to open. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ discalimer: no sane man thinks as I do ...ihnp4!mgnetp!ll1!cej Llewellyn Jones ------------------------------------------------------------
barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (05/16/85)
In article <501@nmtvax.UUCP> guads@nmtvax.UUCP (Steven Lautzenheiser) writes: > Yar! Remember in "Tomorrow is Yesterday," when the cat runs STRAIGHT(!) >towards the door? First, what kind of cat would run full tilt into a door? You must be talking about "Assignment: Earth" (I know it's hard to keep track of all those time travel episodes), the one with Gary Seven and his cat, Isis. If you recall, that was no ordinary cat. It was quite intelligent, and presumably knew about automatic doors. -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar
josie@ihuxw.UUCP (Johanna Clementz) (05/17/85)
> > > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > > > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > > > elevators? The episode that triggered this is "The Naked Time", in which > > > a sobbing Spock enters a room, the door closes and he leans back against > > > it. Why doesn't it reopen and dump him out into the corridor on his > > > butt? > > > > > > -- Mark A. > > > ...{uw-beaver|fluke}!ssc-vax!adolph How 'bout this explanation... 1.) the doors sense when a person is in the room, and will not open until that person says "come" or "come in" or something. (We have seen this many times in the series). 2.) the doors use sensors, not in the sides of the doors, but in the floor! A foot or two before the door itself, to sense approaching weight; ofcourse the sensors would be smart enough to know when the person (or whatever) is coming toward the door as opposed to passing by it. or Remember the precision sensors that Miranda used to "see" with in "Is There No Truth In Beauty"? Perhaps the doors use sensors almost as sensitive to tell when a person is approaching. 3.) Lastly, the doors do have a mechanism for locking. Perhaps Spock just locked the door when he came in, or programmed it to lock whenever he entered (he was very upset). -- Josie Clementz AT&T Bell Laboratories Naperville, IL (...ihuxw!josie)
merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (05/19/85)
> > Has anybody figured out how those doors work? Do they have limited > > telepathy, somewhat akin to the limited prescience of the Hitchhiker > > ... > > In "The Making of Star Trek", Roddenberry describes how they had a > stagehand sitting around waiting for a cast member to get close > enough, and would then push the button to open the doors. This > technique makes it pretty easy to keep the doors closed when Spock > has to lean against them. > -- > Julian "a tribble took it" Gomez I heard the story as it was actually two stagehands who openned the doors manually. Supposedly, there are many bloopers when only one door opens or something. Hey! That's why Jim & Spock & Bones and the senior officers are usually the ones who go down to the planet! All the other crewmembers are busy opening and shutting the doors. -- "I'm walking on sunshine..." Peter Merchant
urban@spp2.UUCP (Mike Urban) (05/24/85)
In article <3108@dartvax.UUCP> merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) writes: >> In "The Making of Star Trek", Roddenberry describes how they had a >> stagehand sitting around waiting for a cast member to get close >> enough, and would then push the button to open the doors. This >> technique makes it pretty easy to keep the doors closed when Spock >> has to lean against them. > >I heard the story as it was actually two stagehands who openned the doors >manually. Supposedly, there are many bloopers when only one door opens >or something. > Correct, the doors were basically just sliding wooden doors (I visited the set in 1969). After watching the blooper reel in which the doors don't open on cue, it absolutely amazes me that the actors could have the confidence to just stride briskly up to the doors and walk through. Of course, in the Jack the Ripper episode, the bridge door doesn't open, and Kirk is able to stop himself in time, so obviously the Enterprise crew and the Enterprise doors are in a two-way telepathic link using brain implants provided by the not-really-Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. Mike -- Mike Urban {ucbvax|decvax}!trwrb!trwspp!spp2!urban "You're in a maze of twisty UUCP connections, all alike"