bobn@bmcg.UUCP (Bob Nebert) (08/13/85)
Someone once posted a listing of ST episodes in the order of appearance and in the beginning of each episode Kirk's voice-over says " star date xxx" My question is has anybody checked it out to verify if the star dates correspond with the order of the episodes release? In other words did they forget about that aspect of contiguity. Well your honor, this is the way it really was.......... Bob Nebert sdcsvax!bmcg!bobn
barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) (08/18/85)
There is definitely no pattern to stardates between episodes (within episodes they always increased, except when time travel was involved). The "Star Trek Concordance" has a list of episodes ordered by stardate. This was a common question asked of Roddenberry, and the answer he made up even made it into "The Making of Star Trek" (I think). He explained that stardates are a function of both time and position in the galaxy, necessary because of the time-related effects of warp-speed travel. Thus, stardates can decrease if you travel across the galaxy. He admits that he had to make up this silly explanation because they never bothered to check the continuity of stardates. -- Barry Margolin ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar
ccrrick@ucdavis.UUCP (Rick Heli) (08/19/85)
> Someone once posted a listing of ST episodes in the order of appearance > and in the beginning of each episode Kirk's voice-over says " star date xxx" > > My question is has anybody checked it out to verify if the star dates > correspond with the order of the episodes release? In other words did they > forget about that aspect of contiguity. > I once read that the stardate was more than a chronological measurement, but also took into account the ship's current galactic location. But then, this had the sound of an after-the-fact rationalization. -- --rick heli (... ucbvax!ucdavis!groucho!ccrrick)
ccrdave@ucdavis.UUCP (Lord Kahless) (08/19/85)
> Someone once posted a listing of ST episodes in the order of appearance > and in the beginning of each episode Kirk's voice-over says " star date xxx" > My question is has anybody checked it out to verify if the star dates > correspond with the order of the episodes release? In other words did they > forget about that aspect of contiguity. > sdcsvax!bmcg!bobn The series remembered, but N.B.C. didn't. The order is pretty scrambled.
rcook@uiucuxc.Uiuc.ARPA (08/21/85)
No, the episodes were not released with continuing time order, but the general stardate did increase as the show went on. First Season: The Man Trap SD:1513.1 Charlie X SD:1533.6 Where No Man Has Gone Before SD:1312.4 The Naked Time SD:1704.2 The Enemy Within SD:1672.1 Mudd's Women SD:1329.1 What Are Little Girls Are Made Of SD:2712.4 Miri SD:2713.5 Dagger of the Mind SD:2715.1 The Corbomite Manuver SD:1512.2 The Managerie (2 parts) SD:3012.4 The Conscience of the King SD:2817.6 Balance of Terror SD:1709 Shore Leave SD:3025.3 The Galileo Seven SD:2821.5 The Squire of Gothos SD:2124.5 Arena SD:3045.6 Tomorrow is Yesterday SD:3113.2 Court-Martial SD:2947.3 The Return of the Archons SD:3156.2 Space Seed SD:3141.9 A Taste of Armageddon SD:3192.1 This Side of Paradise SD:3417.3 The Devil in the Dark SD:3417.3 Errand of Mercy SD:3198.4 The Alternative Factor SD:3087.6 The City on the Edge of Forever SD:3134.0 Operation--Annihilate! SD:3287.2 Season 2: Amok Time SD:3372.7 Who Mourns for Adonais SD:3468.1 The Changeling SD:3451.9 Mirror, Mirror SD:????.? The Apple SD:3715.0 The Doomsday Machine SD:4202.9 Catspaw SD:3018.2 I, Mudd SD:4513.3 Metamorphosis SD:3219.4 Journey to Babel SD:3842.3 Friday's Child SD:3497.2 The Deadly Years SD:3478.2 Obsession SD:3619.2 Wolf in the Fold SD:3614.9 The Trouble With Tribbles SD:4523.3 The Gamesters of Triskelion SD:3211.7 A Piece of the Action SD:4598.0 The Immunity Syndrome SD:4307.1 A Private Little War SD:4211.4 Return to Tomorrow SD:4768.3 Patterns of Force SD:2534.0 By Any Other Name SD:4657.5 The Omega Glory SD:????.? The Ultimate Computer SD:4729.4 Bread and Circuses SD:4040.7 Assignment: Earth SD:????.? Third Season: Spock's Brain SD:5431.4 The Enterprise Incident SD:5031.3 The Paradise Syndrome SD:4842.6 And the Children Shall Lead SD:5027.3 Is There in Truth No Beauty SD:5630.7 Spectre of the Gun SD:4385.3 Day of the Dove SD:????.? For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky SD:5476.3 The Tholian Web SD:5693.4 Plato's Stepchildren SD:5784.0 A Wink of an Eye SD:5710.5 The Empath SD:5121.0 Elaan of Troyius SD:4372.5 Whom Gods Destroy SD:5718.3 Let That Be Your Last Battlefield SD:5730.2 The Mark of Gideon SD:5423.4 That Which Survives SD:????.? The Lights of Zetar SD:5725.3 Requiem for Methuselah SD:5843.7 The Way to Eden SD:5832.3 The Cloud Miners SD:5818.4 The Savage Curtain SD:5906.4 All Our Yesterdays SD:5943.7 Turnabout Intruder SD:5928.5 Rob Cook UUCP: {ihnp4,pur-ee}!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!rcook 'Life is just a cocktail party on the street' -Mick Jagger-
friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (08/21/85)
In article <5023@mit-eddie.UUCP> barmar@mit-eddie.UUCP (Barry Margolin) writes: > >He admits that he had to make up this silly explanation because they >never bothered to check the continuity of stardates. Well, actually it was the *network* that messed this up. The studio actually got it right, at least as far as order was concerned. But the network didn't *air* them in the order they were filmed. Actually, ther *is* a continuity problem with stardates. I sorted the first dozen or so episodes by stardate and discovered that they didn't leave nearly enough time between episodes! In the pilot(Where No Man Has Gone Before), a careful watching of the episode will reveal that the number after the "point" in the stardate is *hours*. This can be accomplished by comparing anounced ETA's with recorded stardates. Using this interpretation there was on the average only a day or so between each episode! Or at most about a week! I have *never* heard of a Navy ship *that* busy, and with the enormous distances involved it becomes even more ludicrous. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen
kwc@cvl.UUCP (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) (08/27/85)
> This Side of Paradise > SD:3417.3 > > The Devil in the Dark > SD:3417.3 > > Rob Cook > These two episodes have the same stardate. Is this a typo or were these the actual stardates? If they are right, this was some pretty rough duty for the crew of the U.S.S. ENTERPRISE Ken Crist Computer Vision Lab University of Maryland