cbspt005@abnjh.UUCP (Eric Carter) (05/23/84)
Re my previous posting on the dual pilot history of ST. The second pilot was "Where No Man Has Gone Before", not "The Menagerie". Gene Roddenberry found a way to cleverly recycle footage and storyline from "The Cage". Eric Carter AT&T-IS S.Plainfield,NJ
mnw@trwrba.UUCP (05/25/84)
By the way, since all of the discussion about the Cage and the Menagerie, I
am sure all ST buffs know this, but for those of you who do not know, the
Menagerie was the ONLY two part ST TV episode filmed!
Michael N. Washington
TRW E&DS Redondo Beach, Ca. 90278
{ucbvax,decvax,hplabs}!trwrba!mnwtimpson@comet.DEC (IN THE HANDS OF THE FATHER) (03/14/86)
>> Yes Nemoy had a broken right leg when THE CAGE was filmed. >> >> Did you also note that Spock Smiles in this episode also? >> Steve >Did you also note that Spock was a *Martian* in this episode? >THE CAGE is a first draft. A lot has changed since then. Your going to have to show me where in The Managerie that they say Spock is a Martian???????? Nimoy did play a martian in the old Commando Cody serials though. Steve
tom@utcsri.UUCP (Tom Nadas) (03/17/86)
Whoever posted that Spock was a Martian in THE CAGE was probably
remembering a reference to Roddenberry's original draft of his
series proposal in which Spock was identified as half-Martian (see
the bowels of THE MAKING OF STAR TREK). I believe that was changed
well before filming, as was the name of the Captain (originally
Robert T. April, a name eventually used in the animated series),
the name of the starship (Yorktown), and the crew size (203 -- that
figure is used in THE CAGE/MENAGERIE). The choice of Vulcan isn't
much better than Mars, since Vulcan was a hypothetical 0th planet
in our solar system (I'm talking astronomy history here, not ST),
orbiting inside the orbit of Mercury (and therefore washed out from
view by its minimal elongation from old Sol). Anybody know at what
point they decided Vulcan was an extrasolar world? I have a
sneeking suspicion that that was James Blish's one real contribution
to Star Trek, since his adaptation (of TOMORROW IS YESTERDAY, I think)
is the earliest source I've been able to find of it categorically NOT
being the mythical solar planet.
I just went and got the book, Star Trek 2. It was published in
February 1968, early enough to have had an impact on the series
(especially since Paramount would have seen the manuscript months
before that). Interestingly, Blish does make reference to the
mythical planet Vulcan, thus:
[CAPT. CHRISTOPHER SPEAKING] "Mr. Spock here tells me
that he is half Vulcan. Surely you can reach Vulcan from here.
That's supposed to be just inside the orbit of Mercury."
["There is no such solar planet as Vulcan," Kirk said.
"Mr. Spock's father was a native of The Vulcan, which is a planet
of 40 Eridani."
(Page 34, Bantam paperback edition)
Of course, it could have been in D. C. Fontana's script and edited
out later, but I don't think so.
Cheers
Robert J. Sawyer
in Toronto
c/o
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Tom Nadas
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