[net.startrek] Star Trek IV Rumors

sam@bucsd.UUCP (Shelli Meyers) (03/18/86)

In article <137@man.UUCP> rgale@man.UUCP (Ryan Gale) writes:
>
>     With  the cast selected and some set descriptions it appears 
>as though the fabled crew of the Enterprise arrive on earth after 
>some negotiations on the Planet Vulcan and arrive on Earth, poss-
>ibly still in the Klingon Bird-of-Prey.  In fact, that looks very 
>likely.   The  Earth they arrive at is,  Now.  

You mean "now" like 1986?  Wait a second...*that* doesn't make any
sense...

I think it should be called "Star Trek 4: The Court Martial".
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kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (03/19/86)

In article <276@bucsd.UUCP>, sam@bucsd.UUCP writes:
> I think it should be called "Star Trek 4: The Court Martial".
> -- 
> Shelli Meyers, previously Queen Susan of Narnia
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	It should not be called "Star Trek 4: The Court Martial", because
Kirk is not going to court martialed by Star Fleet. This aspect of the reper-
cussions of Star Trek III have already been covered in DC's Star Trek comic.
You may not like it, but it all stories are approved by Gene R. and Paramount.
DC cannot print any story that does not fit into the official Star Trek uni-
verse.
	By the way, you should read the Star Trek Annual #1 and see what a
jerk Kirk can really be!

						Star-Lord

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Naturally they became heroes.

friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) (03/21/86)

In article <276@bucsd.UUCP> sam@bucsd.UUCP (Shelli Meyers) writes:
>
>>the fabled crew of the Enterprise arrive on earth after 
>>some negotiations on the Planet Vulcan and arrive on Earth, poss-
>>ibly still in the Klingon Bird-of-Prey.  In fact, that looks very 
>>likely.   The  Earth they arrive at is,  Now.  
>
>You mean "now" like 1986?  Wait a second...*that* doesn't make any
>sense...
>
	But it is true just the same! Remember the episode in which
the Enterprise warped back into the 60's by accident? perhaps
something like that happens again.
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steven@ism780 (03/24/86)

 According to the Daily Variety film production chart for 3/21/86,
 the title is:

	"Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"

jmr@motown.UUCP (John M. Ritter) (03/26/86)

> In article <276@bucsd.UUCP> sam@bucsd.UUCP (Shelli Meyers) writes:
> >
> >>the fabled crew of the Enterprise arrive on earth after 
> >>some negotiations on the Planet Vulcan and arrive on Earth, poss-
> >>ibly still in the Klingon Bird-of-Prey.  In fact, that looks very 
> >>likely.   The  Earth they arrive at is,  Now.  
> >
> >You mean "now" like 1986?  Wait a second...*that* doesn't make any
> >sense...
> >
> 	But it is true just the same! Remember the episode in which
> the Enterprise warped back into the 60's by accident? perhaps
> something like that happens again.
> -- 
> 
> 				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

Well, I heard something like Kirk et. al. zip back in time to mess
around with Kahn's kind of people...

You know: no superhuman race, no suspended animation, no Seti Alpha 5,
no Genesis Machine but mostly *NO DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTERPRISE!!*

I wondered how they were going to get it back!
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john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer) (03/27/86)

In article <164@motown.UUCP> jmr@motown.UUCP (John M. Ritter) writes:
>
>Well, I heard something like Kirk et. al. zip back in time to mess
>around with Kahn's kind of people...
>
>You know: no superhuman race, no suspended animation, no Seti Alpha 5,
>no Genesis Machine but mostly *NO DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTERPRISE!!*
>
>I wondered how they were going to get it back!

God, I hope not! That also means no Eugenics War and the potential for
serious damage to the fabric of history.

Much simpler is to go back a few weeks (days?) and stop Kahn from getting
off Ceti Alpha 5. The only problem with this scenario is that the key
person is Chekov. Basically, he would have to relive the events of the
first part of TWOK, this time stopping Terrell from talking Carol Marcus
into letting them consider the planet.

That still does not resolve one other problem- keeping the Enterprise from
being scrapped by Star Fleet. It seems unlikely that that was a
spur-of-the-moment decision; rather, it was probably being discussed behind
closed doors for some time.

Personally, I doubt they will monkey with history that way and that the
Enterprise we knew and loved is gone and should be let to rest in peace.
(Now as for a new Enterprise... )


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marc@pyuxd.UUCP (M Schare) (03/30/86)

Clearly, STIV must not go back in time to alter events. If they did, and 
were succesfull, you could never believe any of the stories again. Imagine:
The new enterprise and the Klingons go into fierce battle. The Enterprise
is (gasp!) DESTROYED. BUT WAIT- Here  goes Admiral Kirk back in time. No
problem - if at first you dont succeed, hit the old restart button by going
back in time and try again. No, the writers would be doing themselves a 
great injustice if they took the easy way out. Now - if they discovered that
Kahn had gone back in time because of some control he found on 
Alpha Ceti 6 and reworked things, they could perhaps (perhaps?) justify
the cheap way out. Either way, should be interesting.

                                           Marc.
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rjnoe@riccb.UUCP (Roger J. Noe) (03/31/86)

> >Well, I heard something like Kirk et. al. zip back in time to mess
> >around with Kahn's kind of people...
> >
> >You know: no superhuman race, no suspended animation, no Seti Alpha 5,
> >no Genesis Machine but mostly *NO DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTERPRISE!!*
> 
> God, I hope not! That also means no Eugenics War and the potential for
> serious damage to the fabric of history.

Absolutely.  But here's another possibility:  go back in time with the Klingon
scout ship, after Khan and his people have gone into suspended animation.  Blow
the Botany Bay out of space ("We are Klingons!") and go forward in time.  Then
(1) Enterprise would never have encountered Botany Bay, so that none of the
havoc caused by Khan and crew would have happened, (2) this would restore Lt.
McGivers to the Enterprise crew [who cares?], and (3) Reliant never would have
found Khan and survivors on Ceti Alpha V.  Of course, that probably means that
the Federation would have tested Genesis in a controlled environment (that
planet), no one would die testing it, and they would then discard Genesis when
the experiment proves it has some major flaws.  Basically, none of the events
from ST2 and ST3 would have happened.

> That still does not resolve one other problem- keeping the Enterprise from
> being scrapped by Star Fleet. It seems unlikely that that was a
> spur-of-the-moment decision; rather, it was probably being discussed behind
> closed doors for some time.

Partly because she was so beat up after battling Khan.

> Personally, I doubt they will monkey with history that way and that the
> Enterprise we knew and loved is gone and should be let to rest in peace.
> (Now as for a new Enterprise... )
> -- 
> Name:		John Ruschmeyer

You're probably right.
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