kahless@samira.UUCP (Lord Kahless) (11/30/86)
> Beware, Spoilers within. > New questions also, which expose more spoilers... > > The reason Chekov was caught was that his communicator failed to > reach Scotty. I thought that the reason was that Scotty lacked enough transporter power to pull over two people at once, so Uhura went first with the recharged crystals. > It was probably just as damaged as his phasor.(sic) The communicator was in operational condition, as Chekov was talking on it up to the moment everyone on the Enterprise started pointing guns at him. > And as I recall, the Iotians were incredibly inquisitive and fond of > duplicating things. So are humans! Look at the fashion industry. When any human in reasonably high fashion authority creates anything, irregardless of how impractical or ridiculous looking it is, every lower priced store begins selling excellent immitations. My Vulcan can also site similar "monkey-see -> monkey-do" behavior in Earth military. > I'm glad Nemoy(sp) isn't directing the next. --ed The problem isn't the director, it's the *WRITER*! Somebody needs to have a *REAL* plot, with some real needs and real conflict. One really legitimate and driving need is that of the Klingons for revenge on Kirk. Let's get a blood fued going here! Or, they could drop that whole idea and start a brand new adventure. Was anybody else *REALLY* disappointed they revived the Constitution class ships *JUST* for Kirk? I thought they were scrapping the series! Oh, I could see they giving Kirk a bigger version of the Reliant with the name Enterprise on it, or a cut down version of the Excelsior with the Enterprise name, or even a copy of the Excelsior, but not a carbon copy of the E itself! I mean, didn't they have enough money in the budget for one more model?!?! Also, a question for those who understand the fine points of Earth military tradition... Spock has been a Captain for two movies now. Kirk has just been demoted to Captain. Since Spock's date of rank as Captain now goes back farther than Kirk's date of rank as Captain, does that mean Spock now outranks Kirk?
allanon@hope.UUCP (Kenneth Leung) (11/30/86)
> >> Beware, Spoilers within. >> > New questions also, which expose more spoilers... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> >> The reason Chekov was caught was that his communicator failed to >> reach Scotty. > > I thought that the reason was that Scotty lacked enough transporter power > to pull over two people at once, so Uhura went first with the recharged > crystals. true, scotty didnt have enough power to beam both up, so he beamed one at a time, but when Uhura went through his communication with Chekov was breaking up and he couldnt lock the transporters for co-ordinates. > >> It was probably just as damaged as his phasor.(sic) > > The communicator was in operational condition, as Chekov was talking on > it up to the moment everyone on the Enterprise started pointing guns > at him. the communicator was in a bad shape anyhow, noticed how much static there was between their communication? > > Was anybody else *REALLY* disappointed they revived the Constitution > class ships *JUST* for Kirk? I thought they were scrapping the series! > Oh, I could see they giving Kirk a bigger version of the Reliant with > the name Enterprise on it, or a cut down version of the Excelsior with > the Enterprise name, or even a copy of the Excelsior, but not a carbon > copy of the E itself! I mean, didn't they have enough money in the > budget for one more model?!?! I know, the special effects on that scene looks really bad. I dont know but the Enterprise scenes in the end looks too fake, in comparision with the scenes of Enterprise undocking in ST II or ST I. The bridge scene is even worse.. I am not sure whether it is the particular angle of shot or just the way the bridge is colored bright white, it simply looked bad.... > > Also, a question for those who understand the fine points of Earth > military tradition... Spock has been a Captain for two movies > now. Kirk has just been demoted to Captain. Since Spock's date > of rank as Captain now goes back farther than Kirk's date of rank > as Captain, does that mean Spock now outranks Kirk? Probably, if you come to think of it, I dont understand why Sulu wouldnt be commanding his own ship, he also is qualified for it. Another point to note, did anybody noticed the fact that when the Bird of Prey decended on the whaling ship, there was no shadow? the thing was floating above the ship but I see no shadow on the ship (it was a sunny day, too) One thing I noted from ST I (I didnt say it is better) is that fine details are noted, like when Kirk was inspecting the outside of the new Enterprise it showed the shadows of the metal frame around the E on him when he was looking, that is what I call details. The special effects is not as good as I expected in ST IV. -ken UUCP: {ucbvax!ucdavis,sdcsvax,ucivax}!ucrmath!hope!allanon ARPA: ucrmath!hope!allanon@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu UUPC: root@despair (User to Unix Personal computer) :-)
spock@hope.UUCP (Chris Ambler) (12/01/86)
In his inimitable way, Allanon@hope (Kenneth Leung) chants: > Another point to note, did anybody noticed the fact that when the Bird of > Prey decended on the whaling ship, there was no shadow? the thing was floating > above the ship but I see no shadow on the ship (it was a sunny day, too) > One thing I noted from ST I (I didnt say it is better) is that fine details > are noted, like when Kirk was inspecting the outside of the new Enterprise > it showed the shadows of the metal frame around the E on him when he was > looking, that is what I call details. The special effects is not as good > as I expected in ST IV. There was too a shadow! Ken, you need to get new glasses. I distinctly saw a shadow as the whaling ship was turning. BTW, as my Uncle pointed out to me, did you notice that the whaling crew was not speaking any recognizable language?! I assume this was done so as not to pin the whaling ship to any particular nation... -- /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | -Spock! | Christopher J. Ambler, | | | University of California, | | "One damned minute, Captain" | Riverside. | |-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------| | Snail: 740 S. Western #59 Santa Maria, Ca 93454 USA | | Uucp: ihnp4!ucbvax!ucdavis!ucrmath!hope!spock | \-------------------------------------------------------------------------/