eokane@charm.UUCP (Evan Kane) (05/06/84)
"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Inscription on the Statue of Liberty, by Emma Lazarus The Lady or the Flag In New York City's harbor A famous Statue stands. No need to even tell you, It's known in every land. I always love my country, I sometimes fear my flag, But I always love that Statue And the things for which it stands. For a flag is flown in battle, But I want a better way To build with strength and purpose For our children's future days, And a flag is pride and boasting, And I`ve heard the old refrain "My country, whether right or wrong" When my heart was filled with shame. Many Nations fear us For the role our Flag has played, But they all admire the Statue And the promises she's made. Yes, the Statue has compassion For all pain and misery, And I dearly love that symbol, The Statue of Sympathy. And someday, for our leader, I pray that I may see Someone whose first commitment Is the Statue of Liberty. Evan Kane 5/5/84
amigo@iwpba.UUCP (amigo) (05/10/84)
Evan Kane quotes Emma Lazarus'poem: >> "Give me your tired, your poor, >> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, >> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, >> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, >> I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" >> >> Inscription on the Statue of Liberty, Speaking as an immigrant to the United States (from England via Canada), I want to say that I dislike this poem intensely. I am not "wretched refuse" nor a "huddled mass." I always feel insulted by this poem. John Hobson AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL ihnp4!iwpba!amigo (NOTE TEMPORARY MACHINE)
eokane@charm.UUCP (Evan Kane) (05/11/84)
Poetry deals in metaphor and symbolism and is thereby less precise than prose in the hands of a logician or a lawyer or even a scientist like myself. I prefer to write poetry because it is more directly assimilated by the emotions and therefore has more impact. There is always the risk (if you think you have a message) that your symbols may not mean the same to other people as they mean to you.From John Hobson's remarks I regretfully learn that this is the case with Emma Lazarus' poem inscribed on the Statue of Liberty. To me the words suggest compassion. I interpret the phrases "huddled masses" and "wretched refuse" to refer to the economic condition of the refugees and their treatment in their native land. To me, the extended welcome symbolizes a recognition of their intrinsic worth as human beings and is not condescension. Evan Kane 5/10/84
dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (05/11/84)
It's pretty easy for "huddled masses" and "wretched refuse" to be taken as condescending. At least some Americans *are* pretty arrogant about how wonderful the U.S.A. is compared to the rest of the world. Once a non-American gets tired of hearing that attitude, it's pretty easy to read it in places where it might not have been intended. Actually, I should change "non-American" to something a bit broader.
pjm@spuxll.UUCP (05/11/84)
My parents were also immigrants. I dont think they were offended at all by the poem on the Statue of Liberty. It is trting to describe the US the way it was perceived by many people ie. as the land of oppurtunity etc. You can call that corny but many people believed it came here and bettered their lot in life while making MANY SIGNIFICANT contributions to their new homeland. If you think it is a trivial undertaking to transplant a family from a native country to one where you dont understand the language and dont know many people then you should talk to some first generation americans who have been through it. I can almost guarantee that they would not be offended by being called 'wretched huddled masses' or whatever. They wanted what America had to offer, because, compared to it they were not too far removed from how the poem described them. If anyone takes offense to this, accept my apologies. I am sure that not everyone immigrated to this country because of they were in desperate financial conditions. I beleive the VAST majority, however did. To these people, the words of the poem has real meaning and it is anything but offensive. Sorry if I got carried away.. Paul Maioriello AT&T ISL spuxll!pjm
Anonymous@inmet.UUCP (05/17/84)
#R:iwpba:-14500:inmet:7700003:000:278 inmet!Anonymous May 15 09:41:00 1984 >> "Give me your tired, your poor, >> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, >> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, >> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, >> I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" But no illegal aliens, please!
tac@teldata.UUCP () (06/20/84)
, (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice) "inmet!Anonymous" writes: >> >> >> "Give me your tired, your poor, >> >> Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, >> >> The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, >> >> Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, >> >> I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" >> >> But no illegal aliens, please! I always find it remarkable how many people ask me to live up to a poem (ever heard of poetic license ?) written by someone else on a statue which was an unsolicited gift. Uncle Sam The noblest of ideals may not be practical. Plato tried (twice) to create his republic, and ended by renouncing it before he died (didn't teach you that when they taught you about Plato's Republic did they?). We, being human, cannot always live up to our ideals. So while I agree that the sentiments on the Statue are great and wish that they could be applied and adhered to, I disagree with quick quips of disdain for our current attitudes. Just maybe if we got rid of the social programs we could afford to open our borders again. From the (downtrodden--how else to stand on it?) Soapbox of Tom Condon {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac} Remember that "We the People" are Uncle Sam. DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are those of everyone who matters, but not necessarily anyone you know, and most certainly not my employers!