tcp-ip@ucbvax.ARPA (07/30/85)
From: jbn@FORD-WDL1.ARPA Someone needs to nail this down. The meaning of ``broadcast addressing'' in IP space is not well defined at present, and needs to be. Incidentally, it is probably a bad idea to have special addresses that only can be decoded after you know how many bits of subnet information apply. This applies to [0.0.0.x], [0.0.x.x], and [0.x.x.x], which seem to be of marginal utility. Nagle
tcp-ip@ucbvax.ARPA (07/30/85)
From: POSTEL@USC-ISIF.ARPA See the bottom of page 3 of RFC 943. --jon. -------
tcp-ip@ucbvax.ARPA (07/30/85)
From: Jeff Mogul <mogul@Navajo> Someone needs to nail this down. The meaning of ``broadcast addressing'' in IP space is not well defined at present, and needs to be. Right. How about taking as a starting point either RFC919, "Broadcasting Internet Datagrams", or RFC922, "Broadcasting Internet Datagrams in the Presence of Subnets". The latter might be slightly out-of-synch with the RFC940 scheme for subnetting, but the intelligent reader will not miss the point. There has been a thundering silence on the topic ever since I wrote these RFCs last year. Neither memo requires the use of broadcast (something that some people failed to understand), but merely specifies a mechanism to be used if desired. Remember, "RFC" stands for "Request for Comments". Incidentally, it is probably a bad idea to have special addresses that only can be decoded after you know how many bits of subnet information apply. This applies to [0.0.0.x], [0.0.x.x], and [0.x.x.x], which seem to be of marginal utility. You're mostly right. The idea (see RFC917) is that the use of subnets should be invisible outside the network. Therefore, any "special" address that requires such decoding must be used only within a single network. The only such address for which I can see a use is "broadcast to a specific non-local subnet of this network". The use of [0.0.0.x] et al in the "Information Request" ICMP suffers from this decoding problem, and several others, and is one reason why a group of us proposed the "Reverse Address Resolution Protocol" (RFC903), to obviate this ICMP.