news@sri-unix (07/26/82)
#N:tekcrd:12100001:000:8778 tekcrd!news Jul 26 09:15:00 1982 From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!essick Newsgroups: net.notes Title: net.notes - for notesfile users - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.255 Posted: Wed Jul 21 12:26:21 1982 Received: Thu Jul 22 01:22:26 1982 Reply-To: !uiucdcs!essick #N:uiucdcs:23300002:004:401 uiucdcs!essick Jul 21 12:03:00 1982 This notesfile/newsgroup is for the discussion of the notesfile system. Bug reports and solutions can be posted here. You may ask why this is not a subgroup of "net.news". Simple. the notesfile system is not the news program. It may accomplish similar goals, but it isn't news. I have a number of bugs which were reported and which have solutions. I will submit these in a few days. Ray Essick From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:mhtsa!eagle!harpo!ber Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: reading commands in notes - (nf) Article-I.D.: harpo.890 Posted: Sun Jul 25 15:55:04 1982 Received: Sun Jul 25 20:23:19 1982 Reply-To: arpo!ber #R:sri-unix:-227000:harpo:18500001:000:75 harpo!ber Jul 25 15:51:00 1982 A new miscio.c is available from pur-ee!malcolm which fixes this. brian From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!essick Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: reading commands in notes - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.275 Posted: Sun Jul 25 19:26:11 1982 Received: Mon Jul 26 07:21:51 1982 Reply-To: !uiucdcs!essick #R:sri-unix:-227000:uiucdcs:23300005:004:196 uiucdcs!essick Jul 25 18:50:00 1982 Malcolm Slaney has kindly modified the appropriate portions of code to allow one to use the erase and kill characters of his choice. I shall dig out the modifications and post them. Ray Essick From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!essick Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: notes<cr> - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.274 Posted: Sun Jul 25 19:26:11 1982 Received: Mon Jul 26 07:21:59 1982 Reply-To: !uiucdcs!essick #R:sri-unix:-225500:uiucdcs:23300004:004:576 uiucdcs!essick Jul 25 18:49:00 1982 The code inside of the notes proram does not do any blanking in this case. Maybe the paging program that is called to print the list of available notesfiles (defaults to /usr/ucb/more) has been changed on your machine? The code that prints the messages looks like: printf("Usage: %s [-isxn] [blah blah]", argv[0]); dounix(PAGER, "/usr/spool/notes/.utilities/avail.notes"); There is no screen clearing in the code. Since notes looks at the "PAGER" environment variable, if a user has defined a pager which clears the screen to start, this is what happened. Ray Essick From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:mhtsa!eagle!harpo!decvax!pur-ee!malcolm Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: reading commands in notes - (nf) Article-I.D.: pur-ee.461 Posted: Mon Jul 26 01:28:58 1982 Received: Mon Jul 26 07:37:42 1982 Reply-To: arpo!decvax!pur-ee!malcolm #R:sri-unix:-227000:pur-ee:13000001:000:122 pur-ee!malcolm Jul 25 15:00:00 1982 It has been added here at Purdue. If you want I can send you the new version of the file miscio.c. Malcolm Slaney From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!cca!mclure@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.notes Title: percentage in lower right corner Article-I.D.: sri-unix.2239 Posted: Thu Jul 22 14:52:30 1982 Received: Fri Jul 23 09:27:49 1982 Reply-To: lure@sri-unix No matter how deep I am into a note, the bottom right corner always shows 0%. Stuart From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!cca!mclure@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.notes Title: redrawing the screen Article-I.D.: sri-unix.2240 Posted: Thu Jul 22 14:56:07 1982 Received: Fri Jul 23 09:36:06 1982 Reply-To: lure@sri-unix Notes seems to redraw the screen excessively rather than optimizing what needs to be redrawn. Perhaps notes should be modified to use the curses package? At 1200 baud, such redraws consume a lot of time. Stuart From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!duke!harpo!npoiv!npois!cbosgd!nscs!jpj Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: net.notes - for notesfile users - (nf) Article-I.D.: nscs.261 Posted: Thu Jul 22 08:44:23 1982 Received: Fri Jul 23 10:22:52 1982 Reply-To: arpo!npoiv!npois!cbosgd!nscs!jpj I recently came upon a bug and I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has seen it. The problem has to do with too many files being open at one time. I had been showing how to use notes to one of my cohorts and decided to try and send mail. Alas, the Subject: line was deleted and a message (you've gotta be fast to see it!) came up saying too many files. Any ideas? Also - at present we are a test site for the new mail that uses addresses of the form: user@site.network To make this work w/notes, I made a one line change in mailit.c I no longer have the original line, but I am sure that you can deduce what it was. The change looks like this: mailit.c: line 53: sprintf (whoto, "%s@%s", author -> aname, unique -> sys); Since this is the mail standard of the future (please, no flames!), it might be a good idea to ifdef it into the code. Cheers... Jim Jenal BTL/CB From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!duke!harpo!floyd!cmcl2!salkind Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Bug in newsinput.c Article-I.D.: cmcl2.8082 Posted: Fri Jul 23 10:48:46 1982 Received: Fri Jul 23 16:48:55 1982 Reply-To: arpo!floyd!cmcl2!salkind Here is a rather serious bug in newsinput.c: if someone from the net (in B news) replies to an article whose title ends with "- (nf)", the notes system just throws the response away. The problem is that newsinput is expecting the article to be in "almost generic" format (those two lines that start with a # at the beginning of the article). When it doesn't see a # newsinput decides the article is corrupted and throws it away. I propose those two lines needed by notes be moved into the header field of B news. Then normal B news readers won't even see these lines. Newsinput should also be changed to parse the B news format. Then it can even take advantage of the new References: field in B news to build responses instead of base notes automatically. I don't expect this to be that hard; I've already changed newsinput to be able to parse the B news header. I haven't had a chance to test things out yet though; when (and if) I do I will let you all know. We've found several other bugs in the notesfile system (mostly just minor annoyances). Should I report them in this group? I haven't fixed that many. By the way, everyone here who has tried notes seems to be quite pleased with the system. A big improvement over the B news interface. Lou Salkind From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!essick Newsgroups: net.notes Title: Re: percentage in lower right corner - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.267 Posted: Fri Jul 23 11:27:39 1982 Received: Sat Jul 24 09:21:54 1982 Reply-To: !uiucdcs!essick #R:sri-unix:-223900:uiucdcs:23300003:004:388 uiucdcs!essick Jul 23 10:49:00 1982 The 0% comes from the fact that I did all of my development work on a Vax, where int's are 32 bits. If you look at the end of the routine "showit" in module "dsply.c", you will find a printf call that is supposed to show the percentage of the note done. The control string calls for an int, but the variables used are long's. The solution is to cast the result to an int. Ray Essick From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!cca!mclure@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.notes Title: notes<cr> Article-I.D.: sri-unix.2255 Posted: Fri Jul 23 16:12:43 1982 Received: Sat Jul 24 09:36:10 1982 Reply-To: lure@sri-unix Is there some reason why the screen is blanked between the 'usage' blurb after typing notes<cr> and the typeout of the available newsgroups? The blurb disappears to quickly to be read sometimes... why blank at all? Stuart From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!cca!mclure@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.notes Title: reading commands in notes Article-I.D.: sri-unix.2270 Posted: Sat Jul 24 16:50:08 1982 Received: Sun Jul 25 00:06:26 1982 Reply-To: lure@sri-unix It would be nice if notes and its friends could somehow honor my kill and erase settings. It is somewhat disorienting to have different kill/erase settings in notes, the editor one uses, the shell, etc. From: tekcrd!teklabs!ucbcad!ARPAVAX:CSVAX:decvax!cca!mclure@sri-unix Newsgroups: net.notes Title: at(-1,3) in index.c Article-I.D.: sri-unix.2277 Posted: Sun Jul 25 14:08:00 1982 Received: Sun Jul 25 19:50:30 1982 Reply-To: lure@sri-unix When a user types a note number to read, the at(-1,3) in index.c places the cursor 3 columns into the prompt line and prints 'Read note > ##' where ## is the note number. However, the first couple columns still have part of the left-over prompt. I changed our at(-1,3) to at(-1,1) and it seems to work correctly now. Stuart
ber (07/29/82)
#R:tekcrd:12100001:harpo:18500002:000:38 harpo!ber Jul 28 19:43:00 1982 Wow! A recursive newsgroup. brian
malcolm (07/29/82)
#R:tekcrd:12100001:pur-ee:13000003:000:59 pur-ee!malcolm Jul 28 20:03:00 1982 Does anybody know where this came from???? Malcolm