[net.notes] 'Notesfile' sites please note

swatt@ittvax.UUCP (Alan S. Watt) (12/02/83)

I have been seeing a rash of messages from what appear to be notesfile
sites about "cannot deliver mail...".  It appears that someone attempts
to reply to a notesfile-generated article, which gets sent to the user
"notes" at some site, which bounces the mail.  This is not so bad,
but for some reason, the same mail gets bounced an apparently infinite
number of times.  The two sites I have been noticing are "tektronix"
and "ucbcad".

In the past several days, well over a hundred such messages passed through
here all stemming from what appear to be just two mail messages.  The
headers follow.  I am intercepting these and routing them to the bit
bucket.  I hope dcdwest!davidson and sdccs6!ix192 don't mind.

Would those sites please look into this?  Perhaps a simple mail alias
for "notes" as "/dev/null" would suffice?

Thank you.

	- Alan S. Watt
	{decvax,duke,purdue,psuvax,research,allegra,dcdwest}!ittvax!swatt

Offending mail headers:

Message1 (I have received 56 copies of this since 4pm yesterday):
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	From decvax!tektronix!mmdf@tektronix Thu Dec  1 21:14:06 1983 remote from ittvax
	Received: by decvax.UUCP (4.12/4.2)
		id AA24790; Thu, 1 Dec 83 17:18:03 est
	Message-Id: <8312012218.AA24790@decvax.UUCP>
	From: MEMO SERVICE (MMDF) <decvax!mmdf@tektronix>
	To: decvax!sdcsvax!ittvax!dcdwest!davidson
	Received: from rand-relay.csnet by tektronix ; 1 Dec 83 07:33:43 PST
	Date:     29 Nov 83 19:20:42-PST (Tue)
	Subject:  Failed mail

	    Your message could not be delivered to '@ucbcad'
	for the following reason:  '(Reason not known)'


	    Your message follows:

	From: decvax!sdcsvax!ittvax!dcdwest!davidson
	To: 
	  dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix
	Received: from decvax.uucp by tektronix ; 29 Nov 83 19:11:42 PST
	Received: by decvax.UUCP (4.12/4.2),	id AA09974; Tue, 29 Nov 83 06:13:30 est
	Date: Tue, 29 Nov 83 02:09:03 pst
	Subject: Re: HLL RISC? - (nf)
	Message-Id: <8311291009.AA26409@sdcsvax.UCSD>
	Received: by sdcsvax.UCSD; Tue, 29 Nov 83 02:09:03 pst
	References: <780@ucbcad.UUCP>

	The Xerox Dorado is a nice disproof of the supposed failure of HLL
	architectures.

	-Greg

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Actually, it is 28 copies each of two slightly different messages, one
missing the body:

	  28 	<8311291007.AA26395@sdcsvax.UCSD>
	  28 	<8311291009.AA26409@sdcsvax.UCSD>

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Message 2 (I have received 28 copies of this since 4pm yesterday):
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	From decvax!tektronix!mmdf@rand-relay Thu Dec  1 21:13:21 1983 remote from ittvax
	Received: by decvax.UUCP (4.12/4.2)
		id AA24772; Thu, 1 Dec 83 17:17:10 est
	Message-Id: <8312012217.AA24772@decvax.UUCP>
	From: MEMO SERVICE (MMDF) <decvax!mmdf@rand-relay>
	To: decvax!sdcsvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdccs6!ix192@TEKTRONIX
	Received: from rand-relay.csnet by tektronix ; 1 Dec 83 07:33:35 PST
	Date:     26 Nov 83 21:41:11-PST (Sat)
	Subject:  Failed mail

	    Your message could not be delivered to 'notes at Ucbcad'
	for the following reason:  'Unknown user at remote site'


	    Your message follows:

	From: decvax!sdcsvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdccs6!ix192
	To: sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!notes
	Received: from decvax.uucp by tektronix ; 26 Nov 83 08:33:34 PST
	Received: by decvax.UUCP (4.12/4.2),	id AA26387; Sat, 26 Nov 83 06:17:48 est
	Date: 25 Nov 83 23:28:46 PST (Fri)
	Subject: Re: mfhv - (nf)
	Message-Id: <8311260728.AA01265@sdccs6.UCSD>
	Received: from sdccs6.UCSD (sdccs6.ARPA) by sdcsvax.UCSD; Fri, 25 Nov 83 23:32:26 pst
	Received: by sdccs6.UCSD (3.327/1.0ucsd),	id AA01265; 25 Nov 83 23:28:46 PST (Fri)
	Errors-To: decvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdccs6!...!sdcsvax!sdccs6./dev/null
	Flames-To: You really want to know where your flames can go??
	Real-Name: Kenn Frankel
	Phone-Number: (619) 453-2093 
	Vital-Data: Single, tall, dark, and VERY sneaky! 
	Mother: Still loves me
	References: <846@ucbcad.UUCP>
	Via:  TEKTRONIX; 26 Nov 83 17:51-PST

	So tell me - what's so unethnical about yelling TOASTER in a crowded bathtub?
	And the thing with the circle on the *bran* box?

			Too curious to be living in wonder,
							Kenn Frankel

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