ber (08/06/82)
#R:sri-unix:1000010:harpo:18500007:000:197 harpo!ber Aug 5 19:28:00 1982 I used to have a setuid notes program which ran such things as newsoutput and nfxmit. Now I have the 3.0 su which allows me to: su notes -c /usr/spool/.utilities/nfxmit -args etc. brian redman
tw (08/07/82)
#R:sri-unix:1000010:hp-pcd:11900002:000:349 hp-pcd!tw Aug 6 15:16:00 1982 The following line in crontab seems to work just fine for us: 15 * * * * echo /vb/spool/notes/.utilities/newsoutput general '"net.*"' | su netnews We do have newsoutput running setuid to the notes owner. Tw Cook - HP Personal Computer Div, Corvallis OR - ucbvax!hplabs!hp-pcd!tw
malcolm (03/13/83)
#R:tekcrd:12100002:pur-ee:13000016:000:218 pur-ee!malcolm Mar 12 21:01:00 1983 Woops....The long subject problem is my fault. I messed up the strcmp that is used to match up replies and I haven't had a chance to go back and fix it. If somebody has some time, it is in newsinput. Malcolm
pat@uiucuxc.UUCP (09/22/83)
#R:uiucuxc:18600009:uiucuxc:18600011:37777777600:147 uiucuxc!pat Sep 12 13:37:00 1983 Great ! The only problem is that "vi" commands conflict with "notes" commands (i.e. to move up the list I want to type: k ) Good work, Pat
gordon@sneaky.UUCP (10/19/84)
Even if remote cancellation is not allowed, you can still get into trouble if anyone expects references like "the previous response", "note 7 in net.garbage", etc. to mean anything. Example: A writes a note. B writes an idiotic response. C and D start writing responses complaining about B's response, but referring to it only as "the previous response". Whichever of C or D finishes his note last will probably look like an idiot. The time windows for such things get even wider if you assume that C and D are on different machines. Then it is likely that C and D both look like idiots on the other's machine, but sensible on their own. Also, how about: A writes a note. B writes a nasty response, referring to A's note as "note 7". The nightly nfarchive is done, and B's note is now note 7. Everyone thinks B is an idiot for fighting with himself, and losing. Ray, I think I agree with most of your reasons for not having remote cancellation. But I think your examples stretched the point a bit too far. Gordon Burditt convex!ctvax!trsvax!sneaky!gordon microsoft!trsvax!sneaky!gordon
mather@uicsl.UUCP (07/18/85)
I found this same problem to be very hard to live with, so I rewrote the keyboard interface of 'notes'. If people are interested, I will post the mods. It grabs your erase and kill chars and does printing of control chars in a reasonable fashion. Backs up and kills lines, and EVERYTHING. Works very well. b.c.mather Software Surgeon uiucdcs!uicsl!mather
kre@ucbvax.ARPA (Robert Elz) (07/21/85)
part of theheader of a recent article in net.notes. What more can (need) I say ... Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.5 $; site uicsl Path: ...!uiucdcs!uicsl!seefromline Newsgroups: net.notes Subject: Re: Orphaned Response
donn@hp-dcd.UUCP (donn) (08/10/85)
Most of HP (except for the backbone/gateway sites hplabs and hp-pcd) run an internal version of notes exclusively, and both of those run notes as well. This comes to quite a few machines (guess: 100+) (some quite small). The version being run on most sites is somewhat better about news compatability than most notes versions, and an experimental version is a "good netnews citizen", complete with knowing how to avoid "Orphaned response" if it can find a title ANYWHERE. It sees heavy use for internal groups and active (but informal) work is proceeding on it. Donn Terry HP Ft. Collins, Co.