CSvax:Pucc-H:Physics:els (12/16/82)
Is anyone interested in a discussion of the Densepack issue? This net should be fairly well qualified to figure out such things as fratricide, etc. We also could try to come up with alternative basing modes. I know that a discussion like this is probably the realm of fa.arms-d, but that group might not be seen by everyone (and besides, at least here, we haven't seen any activity on that group in a while). Well, to start the discussion, I remember hearing that in order to destroy the Densepack, all the incoming warheads would have to detonate within a few millionths of a second. This means that DoD feels fratricide is based on the other warheads being fryed by electromagnetic effects. Is there any single effect that does the trick? TIME magazine had one of their cute little illustrations showing fratricide. They said that the warheads would be killed by heat, x and gamma rays, and EMP, to name the E&M effects. X and gamma rays I might buy, but unless the warhead got caught in a fireball, wouldn't its reentry shield protect it from heat? Couldn't it be hardened against EMP, just like we are trying with some of our electronics now? Just what kind of damage do x-rays,etc. inflict, and couldn't that also be hardened against? The reason I ask this is that if E&M effects don't kill the incoming warheads, then the shock would have to, thus vastly relieving the simultaneity constraints in such an attack (though if shock waves travel at say 20,000 mph, this still means adjacent impacts must be within ~.01 sec or so. That's still quite a feat!) Looking forward to a lively discussion, els[Eric Strobel] pur-ee!pur-phy!els
peschman (12/17/82)
#R:pur-phy:-61500:uicsovax:19400003:000:549 uicsovax!peschman Dec 17 09:13:00 1982 Well, I suppose that those detonation figures are based on the most common 1Meg warhead. But since I have heard that the USSR has developed a 50Meg warhead, I think one fairly accurate shot would probably do the job. Then again, the people in the DoD prolly know more about it than I do. Anyway, I am kinda parital to mobile deployment (ie. subs etc. ) Would like to interject my favorite Einstein quote here, he said, "If WW3 is ever fought with atomic weapons, WW4 will be fought with rocks." Tom Peschman (uiucdcs!uicsovax!peschman)