[net.physics] Jacobs Ladder

vax1:swifty (04/14/83)

	All of us have seen the "Jacobs Ladder," that marvelous
toy that has the climbing arc.  I would like to build one, but
I have been unable to find cookbook instructions on its 
construction.  Obviously, I could start designing one, but
I'd rather read something about the device first.  Are there
any major constraints?  I think one is that the arc must be
fairly high current to heat the air (which causes the arc to
rise).
	I will appreciate any help in locating a reference.
Post to net.physics if you think it is of general interest,
otherwise respond to me via mail.

Steve Swift
..decvax!microsof!fluke!swifty

mjs (04/15/83)

To build a Jacobs Ladder you will need:

1. A NEON sign transformer with 115 vac in
	and 12Kv to 15Kv at around 3 ma.
2. A block of wood(very dry) or heavy plastic
	and two metal screws about No. 10 size,
	set into the wood about 6 cm apart.
	
3. Two copper rods that are able to be bent
	into a V shape that is about 2 cm at the
	bottom and about 7 cm at the top. They
	are to connected to the two screws and
	from the Ne sign xformer to the screws
	with T.V. high voltage wire(Anode wire)
	good to 25Kv. The screws hold the rods
	in place.
4. Plug it in and burn. 

Watch that you don't end up fried or have the FCC
arrest you for RFI transmitting.


			Mark Schiff 
			WECO c/o BTL Whippany N.J.

vax1:swifty (04/15/83)

As a follow-up: which is the best choice, AC or DC?  I would
guess DC because it would not try to extinguish itself by
going to zero volts as AC does.  Any thoughts.

Steve Swift
..microsof!fluke!swifty

dmmartindale (04/17/83)

Instead of a neon sign transformer, you might try the ignition transformer
that is used on oil-burning home furnaces.  They seem to be rated at 10KV
and 10mA.  Note: 10mA at 10KV is 100 WATTS, so stay away from the thing when
it's turned on.  It could give you an awfully nasty shock.

knutsen@SRI-UNIX (04/18/83)

From:  Andrew Knutsen <knutsen at SRI-UNIX>

	A good source of copper rods is a welding supply store.
If youre going to use it in uncontrolled environments, you
might want to put a clear plastic tube around the thing... you
might be liable if somebody zaps themself.

	Has anybody had experience making Tesla coils with neon
light xfmrs? Ive always wanted to do that... what a party gag
(with the amperage suitably low, of course).

bormanp (04/22/83)

	Using AC for a jacobs ladder works just fine.  I have had
	one for several years, all it is is a 12,000 volt luminous
	transformer and a couple of wires.  No problem with it
	it "going to zero volts", after all, ac only passes through
	0 volts and does not go to 0 volts.  The arc goes up to 3
	or 4 inches (only 2 on a breezy day).  

				-Paul R Borman
				-St. Olaf College
				ihnp4!stolaf!bormanp