[net.physics] Naive Question

student@nmtvax.UUCP (07/09/83)

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  Two cars, one having twice the mass of the other, are driven into
a brick wall.  Neither driver is wearing a seatbelt.  What is the
difference, if any, between the speeds with which the drivers are
thrown?  Why?  (Both cars are going the same speed initially; both
drivers weigh the same amount.)
  
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Initialy the two drivers are moving at the same velocity (assuming
that they are going in the same direction ie. scalar vs. vector).
When the cars impact the brick wall, assuming that the wall is
thick enough to completely stop the foward momentum of the car,
the heavier car has twice the momentum of the lighter but the
drivers have the SAME momentum and velocity. If the cars are
stopped instantously (well close enough not to matter) then the
two drivers will go splat against the steering wheel with the
same velocity, the same momentum, and the same kenitic energy.
Better wear a seat belt.

Not afraid to buckle up!
Greg Hennessy;
..ucbvax!unmvax!nmtvax!student

kwmc@hou5d.UUCP (07/11/83)

Surely the effect on the drivers will be the same (allowing for random
factors such as whether or not the steering wheel ruptures the spleen etc)
if the wall remains INTACT. If the wall disintegrates, then the driver of
the larger car will stand a better chance as the energy required to move the
wall out of the way will result in less sudden decrease in speed than for
the smaller car.
			Ken Cochran     hou5d!kwmc

DWELD@BBNG.ARPA (07/12/83)

Aren't you assuming that the collision is completely inelastic?
I would think that the car would bounce, at least some.
And in that case the ratio of driver momentum to car momentum would be larger 
in the more massive car, thus the more massive car would bounce
more, thus the driver of the more massive car would leave the seat
with a higher relative velocity.

Am I confused?