UNIX%Ames-VMSB@sri-unix.UUCP (12/09/83)
A theory due to Sarfatti: In the far future, we, utilizing controlled quantum cross-correllations and (more speculative) further techniques, cause tremendous, but tightly controlled release of the zero-point energy of the vacuum at a far distant spacelike interval (like about 15 billion years "ago") to create a universe that is suitable for the evolution of intelligent life. A theory due to me: Quasars may be "protypes" or "tests" of this technique. For background information on this, see the recent proceedings of the second symposium on quantum gravity, especially Hawking's paper on the inherent non-locality and a-causality of "everyday" physical phenomena. Also see Wheeler's new book "Quantum Theory and Measurement" from princeton university poress (that's P. U. Press) If you are truly interested in this, reply to me and I'll drop you the number and password of a Bay Area tree-structured bulletin board that is discussing this with sarfatti. ------
crummer%AEROSPACE@sri-unix.UUCP (12/13/83)
From: Charlie Crummer <crummer@AEROSPACE> A theory due to Sarfatti: [This is not a theory; not even an hypothesis. It is just a string of fuzzy clauses. If this were physics then astrology would supercede it in the realm of logic.] In the far future, we, utilizing controlled quantum cross-correllations [There are some who believe that given enough time, "we" will be able to do ANYTHING we say we can. It takes a true believer of the undemonstrated to swallow this concept. What is a "controlled quantum cross-correlation"? In low temperature physics there is the concept of Off-Diagonal Long-Range Order (ODLRO) in the multi-particle state matrix for liquid helium at a certain temperature. This is a SPATIAL correlation, however. As far as I have heard (I'll have to see Hawking's paper.) there have been no violations of "Bogoliubov causality" (a mathematical formulation that formalizes the statement that events separated by a space-like interval cannot affect one another) I know that "The Dancing Wu-Li Masters" refers to "superluminal transfer of information" (Sarfatti again and a fuzzy off-the-cuff concoction of Bell's Theorem, the results of the performance of the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen experiment, and the Feynman elementary physics books) but this is still not physics. Sounds like pretty good Sci-Fi though. By what interaction would these QCC's be "controlled"? "Some day we'll figure it out." isn't really an appropriate response.] and (more speculative) further techniques, cause tremendous, but tightly ["More speculative techniques": What are these? Let's examine them in the light of physics and logic.] controlled release of the zero-point energy of the vacuum at a far distant ["Controlled" (that word again!) The zero-point energy of the vacuum is an artifact of the Lagrangian chosen and disappears like a Chimera under the process of renormalization and regularization. It is analogous to the energy in the oceans which is unavaliable because there is nothing freely avaliable around at a lower temperature to serve as a sink. (It takes work to refrigerate things and that generates heat somewhere.)] spacelike interval (like about 15 billion years "ago") to create a universe [Here's the far distant spacelike interval again. There is no evidence or logical reason to believe that an event here-now can cause or even affect an event there-then (or even here-then).] that is suitable for the evolution of intelligent life. ["Suitable for the evolution of intelligent life": What does this mean? It has to be elaborated in order to be of use.] A theory due to me: Quasars may be "protypes" or "tests" of this technique. [If you believe Sarfatti's Sci-Fi they could be.] For background information on this, see the recent proceedings of the second symposium on quantum gravity, especially Hawking's paper on the inherent non-locality and a-causality of "everyday" physical phenomena. Also see Wheeler's new book "Quantum Theory and Measurement" from princeton university poress (that's P. U. Press) If you are truly interested in this, reply to me and I'll drop you the number and password of a Bay Area tree-structured bulletin board that is discussing this with sarfatti. [If Hawking, Wheeler, Feynman, or other serious physicists contribute to this bulletin board, I am interested. Otherwise, I'll just stick to Star Trek reruns.] ------ [Thanks, I needed that.] --Charlie