[net.physics] concrete electrons

lew@ihuxr.UUCP (Lew Mammel, Jr.) (11/09/84)

From Patrick Wyant's FTL article:

> 			...  If you consider that theories in
> physics can be organized in a hierarchy, from the very concrete such as
> electrons to the very abstract such as unified field theories ...

So it's "concrete electrons" is it?  Patrick, you've seen too many little
black dots with arrows through them. Now you think they're real! 

I've always clung to the notion that it was worth six years of graduate
school to be able to think of an electron as a basis for a spinor
representation of the Lorentz group, so I'm very touchy on this point.

Actually, I was similarly seduced into believing that I knew what a
photon was by those pictures of milk cartons coming off a conveyer belt.
I wasn't disabused of the notion until I read the first chapter of
Sakurai's ADVANCED QUANTUM MECHANICS, where the necessary apparatus for
approaching this difficult abstraction is lucidly set forth. Only then did...

	Hills peep o'er hills
	And alps on alps soar!


		Lew Mammel, Jr. ihnp4!ihuxr!lew

gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (11/11/84)

> I've always clung to the notion that it was worth six years of graduate
> school to be able to think of an electron as a basis for a spinor
> representation of the Lorentz group, so I'm very touchy on this point.

Sure am glad we finally know exactly what an electron "is".

jss@brunix.UUCP (Judith Schrier) (11/18/84)

All of which reminds me of a little anecdote from my undergrad days.
Walt Disney Studios was given the job of designing a logo for the
nuclear sub project. An artist phoned the UCLA physics dept to ask
"please, what color is an electron?"

judith
brunix!jss

stew@harvard.ARPA (Stew Rubenstein) (11/20/84)

> 
> All of which reminds me of a little anecdote from my undergrad days.
> Walt Disney Studios was given the job of designing a logo for the
> nuclear sub project. An artist phoned the UCLA physics dept to ask
> "please, what color is an electron?"
> 
> judith
> brunix!jss

I hope they gave the correct answer.  Every organic chemist knows
that electrons are blue.  The problem is getting them away from the
atom long enough to look at them.  The best way is to dissolve Lithium
or Sodium metal in liquid ammonia.  Result -- a solution of blue
electrons.

Extra credit -- use this information and a slide rule to compute the
size of the solvent cage holding the electron using the old particle-
in-a-three-dimensional-box equation.  Surprisingly enough, it comes
out about right...
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Stew Rubenstein     UUCP: ihnp4!harvard!stew
Harvard Chemistry   ARPA: stew@harvard