[net.physics] Free will and QM "if you believe it"

brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (12/03/84)

First of all, when one says, "QM if you believe it" they are referring
to some particular aspects, like the Cohpenhagen interpretation.  That's
the interpretation that says the sub-observable phenomenon (like the precise
position/momentum of a particle) are meaningless and don't exist.

There are many who don't accept this.

Some proport the "Many Worlds" interpretation.  That says that all events
in a probability distribution happen, and that the essence of being an aware
creature is to take only one of the paths.  This gets rid of the nasty
Copenhagen idea about the "collapse of the wave functions", which Occam's
razor would have us reject, but replaces it with something as distrubing.

As to what the implications of free will in the many worlds interpretation
are, that's hard to say.  Of course I don't support the silly notion that
free will and determinism are contradictory, so it isn't as much of an
issue with me.
-- 
Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473

greenber@acf4.UUCP (12/07/84)

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Okay...I give up...for years I'be been hearing about Occum's Razor....
what is it, where did you hear about it, and how many shaves does it give?


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (12/08/84)

> Okay...I give up...for years I'be been hearing about Occum's Razor....
> what is it, where did you hear about it, and how many shaves does it give?

"Occam's razor", for shaving "Plato's beard", is attributed to William of
Occam:  "entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity".  It is an
epistemological principle and should be found in most basic philosophy
texts.  (Although who knows?  Philosophers are fond of muddying the waters.)

greenber@acf4.UUCP (12/08/84)

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Ah...I get it: keep it simple!  Like all you guys at tgr --- you keep
the network uncluttered by NEVER putting your UUCP address on your
messages!!  :-)

Thanks...


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (12/09/84)

> Ah...I get it: keep it simple!  Like all you guys at tgr --- you keep
> the network uncluttered by NEVER putting your UUCP address on your
> messages!!  :-)

We are proud members of the Internet and do not like paying phone bills.
	whoever@brl-anything.arpa

jin@hplabs.UUCP (Tai Jin) (12/11/84)

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> Okay...I give up...for years I'be been hearing about Occum's Razor....
> what is it, where did you hear about it, and how many shaves does it give?
> 
> 
> Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----

the simpler of two shaves is the better one...