[net.physics] End of Elipsoid PMM...

wasser_1@viking.DEC (John A. Wasser) (05/03/85)

	RE: The "two ellipsoid and sphere" perpetual motion machine:
>
>                      ...it is clear that all the light from f1 hits
> either one or the other of the two ellipsoids, and that all the light
> from f2 hits one of the ellipsoids (thereby going to f1) or the sphere
> (thereby going back to f2). No rays hit the sphere then an ellipsoid 
> or vice versa.
>
	The fact that all radiation from f1 travels to f2 but some of
	the radiation from f1 bounces back to f2 does not mean that
	f2 will have a higher temperature than f1 (and therefore there
	is no temperature difference to drive the PMM).

	Consider that if you were at f1 and looked in any direction
	you would see black-body radiation that depended on the
	temperature of f2.   If f2 is colder than you, you would
	loose heat to it by radiation.  If f2 is hotter than you
	you would gain heat from it.  If f2 is the same temperature
	as you, you would neither loose nor gain.

	The situation at f2 is similar except part of the "universe"
	always has the same temperature as you (because it is just
	a reflection of f2).  You would neither gain nor loose
	radiation to that section of sky so that part can be ignored.
	Once you ignore the spherical reflector, it is clear that
	the situation is the same as at f1.  You loose heat if
	you are hotter, gain if you are cooler and do nothing when
	you have reached the same temperature as f1.

	The only difference the spherical reflector makes is
	that f2 will not loose or gain heat as fast as it would
	with a simple ellipsoidal reflector.  Both focuses will
	end up at the same temperature eventually.

	I hope this puts an end to this version of the PMM.
	Let's see some NEW ideas.

		-John A. Wasser

	P.S.  Remember that using sunlight, slowing the rotation
	of a planet sized mass or slowing a mass in orbit will
	not give you perpetual motion... just a "long term"
	motion machine.

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