AI.Mayank@MCC.ARPA (07/18/85)
From: Mayank Prakash <AI.Mayank@MCC.ARPA> Doug, I now have a very general demonstration of why your setup cannot lead to the kind of paradox that you describe. We have the following situation - A <--(1) E (2)--> B -----> Spaceship E emits two particles 1 and 2, which proceed towards observers A and B respectively. We have an observable M of particle 1, N of particle 2, and an observable Q of the entire system of the two particles. In order for the values of M and N to be correlated, the following conditions must be met - (1) Q is aconstant of motion. This is required because if the value of Q can change over time, then the correlation is lost in time. (2) it should satisfy a relation of the form Q = f(M,N), where Q,M,N are regarded as operators in the Hilbert space of the system, and f is an operator function. Now, suppose we make a measurement of Q on the system before they are emmited from E, and suppose we obtain the value q. Since Q is a constant of motion, its value will remain the same during the experiment. Since M and N are observables of two non-interacting particles, they commute with each other. Since M and N commute, they can be diagonalized simultaneously. Let u(m,n) denote the simultaneous eigenstate of M and N in which M has the value m (on particle 1) and N has the value n (on particle 2). Then, a general state of the system is of the form sum over all (m,n) of a(m, n) u(m, n))) (unfortunately, I cannot type in a sigma). The state in which the systenm was found to be in the state with value q for the operator Q is givenby PSI = sum over all (m,n) satisfying (f(m, n) = q) of a(m, n)u(m, n) where a(m, n) are some coeficients such that the state PSI is normalized. Now, we need some more notation - let S(m, q) and T(n,q) be the sets S(m, q) = {n: f(m, n) = q} and T(n, q) = {m: f(m, n) = q} Note that the two sets have the following relationship - if m is in T(n, q), then n is in S(m, q), and vice versa. What we want are your distributions D1 and D2. First, assume that B makes the measurement of N on particle 2 first, i.e., in your parlance, from the spaceship's point of view. Suppose the value obtained is n0. The probability of this is D2(n0) = sum over all m in T(n0, q) of ABS(a(m, n0))^2 Now, suppose that A makes the observation first (in your parlance, in the rest frame's point of view), and obtains the value m0. Then, B can only obtain values in the set S(m0, q). Suppose it is n0. The probability for that is ABS(a(m0, n0))^2. But the value that A will obtain cannot be predicted beforehand. In order that B obtain the value n0, A must again obtain values in the set T(n0, q), and the probability for that happenning is simply D1(n0) = sum over all m in T(n0, q) of ABS(a(m, n0))^2 Voila! The same as D2! Hope that clears the confusion. - mayank. ========================================================================== II Mayank Prakash AI.Mayank@MCC.ARPA (512) 834-3441 II II 9430 Research Blvd., Echelon 1, Austin, TX 78759. II ========================================================================== ------- -------