[net.physics] Low frequency RF

williams@kirk.DEC (John Williams 223-3402) (07/19/85)

	Yes, You can transmit audio electromagnetically, but there are
two problems:

1) You need more amplitude to establish a certain field strength at
low frequencies, which can be measured as Volts/meter along the length
of the antenna.

2) At low frequencies, signals are absorbed by metal objects. A tremendous
amount of energy would be dissipated by mechanical vibration.

	The second is the most important effect, and makes transmission
impractical at low frequencies except within the confines of a transformer.

						John Williams

george@fear.UUCP (George White) (07/22/85)

The power grid makes a pretty good (and powerful) low frequency
transmitter.  A sizable fraction of what we pay for electricity
is 'lost' on transmission.  Just ask someone who lives close to
a high voltage transmission line about the effects of this RF
energy.  Another demonstration is to put your finger on the input
of an audio amplifier.

Does anyone know how far away you can be from any known source
of AC power and still be able to detect hum (middle of desert,
south pole, middle of the ocean, the shuttle, a screen room,
Gilroy, ...) ?

I suspect that this energy is detectable quite far from the Earth
as is a 10 HZ beat note between the two primary power grid 
frequencies.  Should we try and detect such transmissions from
other solar systems (Please, no flames for assuming intelligence
spawns AC power distribution systems) ?

					George White

fowler@uw-beaver (Rob Fowler) (07/24/85)

How far do you have to go to get away from 60Hz hum?  I used to do
computerized cartography applied to doing near shore analytic tidal
predictions.  As such I had contact with people who actually go out
measuring currents on the continental shelf in up to 300- 400 feet of water
south of Long Island, N.Y.  (there are others). They had to redesign their
electro magnetic current sensors because of 60 Hz interference on the ocean
floor.  I won't get into the details of how they work, but they rely on
using currents through moving salt water to generate detectable magnetic
fields.  It's necessary to use low freq. AC to do this in order to cancel
out the earth's magnetic field, to cancel out chemical effects at the
electrodes, and otherwise make the field detectable .  If you use some
random frequency and phase then your measurements contain an interference
component generated by your signal beating against the background hum.  The
solution they used was to phase lock the oscillator that generates the AC
with the background hum.  Presto, all the problems go away.  This apparently
works anywhere on the continental shelf off the East Coast.  Modulating the
entire US power grid for communication purposes would be another story
though.  I have heard rumors that the Russians do have the potential to use
part of their power grid as antennae for emergency submarine communication.

An interesting experience I had related to background hum occured about 10
years ago.  I went to a screening of a documentary that was done on a
European tour of Julian Beck's Living Theater.  At one point the performers
started chanting and "OM"ing.  It was really awful, unaesthetic, bad.  They
seemed to be out of tune with the universe.  The reason?  They were doing a
European OM in resonance with the 50Hz grid and it sounded flat and
unharmonious to an audience sitting in 60Hz Berkeley.

-- Rob Fowler (uw-beaver!fowler or fowler@washington.arpa)