chuckw@babel.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn) (07/26/85)
Like Dan I too would like to see more restrictions on the
contents of net.physics. If people wish to discuss mental
telepathy and the like they should be somewhere else. I, for
one, would like to see more discussions of the real issues -
alternate views of QM, supersymmetry theory and the like.
It seems too bad that we get a ton of trash - I am sure
that there are some people out there that think and research
before they start writing.
Chuck Wegrzyn
{allegra,decvax,ihnp4,linus,talcott}!encore!babel!chuckwpmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) (08/02/85)
> > Like Dan I too would like to see more restrictions on the > contents of net.physics. If people wish to discuss mental > telepathy and the like they should be somewhere else. I, for > one, would like to see more discussions of the real issues - > alternate views of QM, supersymmetry theory and the like. > .. . > Chuck Wegrzyn Real issues?? I like discussions about mental telepathy, IF they would suggest some sort of basis in physics (a model) that could explain it. It certainly seems like the physics basis for a number of concepts developed long after the general psyche (i. e. science fiction stories) described such concepts quite accurately. Take for example the laser. It now has been seriously proposed as a kind of death ray. It is almost that if such a thing is conceived it will be. And, maybe more thought should be given to assuming that "telepathy, spirits, ball lightning" do exist and we should play the thought game of devising the physics to explain it. Then we can devise a technique to reproduce it for all to know or experience. Super symetries seem to be like describing planetary motions with epicycles. But to each his own. Keep up the interesting garbage. It will disappear when people tire of it. - - NOTE: MAIL PATH MAY DIFFER FROM HEADER - - +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | pmk@prometheus.UUCP; ..seismo!prometheus!pmk.UUCP | decade | +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+
mikes@AMES-NAS.ARPA (08/05/85)
From: mikes@AMES-NAS.ARPA (Peter Mikes) > contents of net.physics. If people wish to discuss mental > telepathy and the like they should be somewhere else. I, for > one, would like to see more discussions of the real issues - > alternate views of QM, supersymmetry theory and the like. > .. . > Chuck Wegrzyn Real issues?? I like discussions about mental telepathy, Take for example the laser. | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | Really! What has laser to do with telepathy?? As I recall, it was developed from maser by conventional methods and theories - QM and Quantum Theory of Light. The problem with postings on 'psychic phenomena' is not the subject but lack of mental discipline and understanding the method of physics (that's what should guide the character of the net physics). There are no 'non-physical forces' - and realm of physics includes the living and thinking and phantasy- ing processes. If we could indeed demonstrate PK, it would involve a physical field - and (and this the psychic fans often do'nt see) may not be relevant to basic physics. There is a long way from quarks to atoms to the biophysics of the human brain... As a very minimum - when you make 'long jumps' - a far reaching conclusions - maintain the same self-critical faculty when writing about organic or anorganic phenomena and whether writing about something based on 'scanty evidence' or about an established effect. That in itself would reduce amount of junk material. Peter M.