[net.physics] end of the universe

dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) (08/20/85)

The 1985 August 3 issue of Science News has an article by D E Thompson
on cosmology that offers an interesting time frame from Frank Tippler at
Tulane.  Everyone has seen a sceneario for the Big Bang, but have you
seen one for the end of the universe?  The article projects what will
happen in a Big Crunch (assuming a closed universe), but that is less
interesting than the following future history for a flat or open
universe (the open and "flat" -neither close nor open- scenarios are
very similar, except that in the open there are some positrons and
electrons left around at the end).  The numbers on the left are years
from today in Fortran notation (1E9 means 1 times 10 to the 9th).

1E9	Sun leaves main sequence (big news all over galaxy :=)
1E12	New stars cease to form
1E15	All stars burned out
1E34	All planets and stars gone due to proton decay
1E54	Black holes of solar mass or smaller gone due to Hawking
	radiation
1E71	Positronium (paired electrons/positrons) most common "atom"
1E98	My August monthly report finished
1E102	All black holes, even those with mass of a supercluster of
	galaxies, lost to Hawking radiation
1E128	Only dim energy left

This should appeal to fans of Olaf Stapledon.  I note that in any of the
scenarios described (flat, open, or closed) the Universe ends with a
bang or a whimper, but it does end, and there is no serious prospect for
the survival of matter.  This clearly has negative implications for the
longterm performance of most stocks.
-- 
D Gary Grady
Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC  27706
(919) 684-3695
USENET:  {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary

dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) (08/20/85)

The 1985 August 3 issue of Science News has an article by D E Thompson
on cosmology that offers an interesting time line from Frank Tippler at
Tulane.  Everyone has seen a scenario for the Big Bang, but have you
seen one for the end of the universe?  Tippler projects what will
happen in a Big Crunch (assuming a closed universe), but that is less
interesting than the following future history for a flat or open
universe (the open and "flat" -neither close nor open- scenarios are
very similar, except that in the open there are some positrons and
electrons left around at the end).  The numbers on the left are years
from today in Fortran notation (1E9 means 1 times 10 to the 9th).

1E9	Sun leaves main sequence (big news all over galaxy :=)
1E12	New stars cease to form
1E15	All stars burned out
1E34	All planets and stars gone due to proton decay
1E54	Black holes of solar mass or smaller gone due to Hawking
	radiation
1E71	Positronium (paired electrons/positrons) most common "atom"
1E98	My August monthly report finished
1E102	All black holes, even those with mass of a supercluster of
	galaxies, lost to Hawking radiation
1E128	Only dim energy left

This should appeal to fans of Olaf Stapledon.  I note that in any of the
scenarios described (flat, open, or closed) the Universe ends with a
bang or a whimper, but it does end, and there is no serious prospect for
the survival of matter.  This clearly has negative implications for the
longterm performance of most stocks.
-- 
D Gary Grady
Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC  27706
(919) 684-3695
USENET:  {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary


-- 
D Gary Grady
Duke U Comp Center, Durham, NC  27706
(919) 684-3695
USENET:  {seismo,decvax,ihnp4,akgua,etc.}!mcnc!ecsvax!dgary

flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) (08/23/85)

In article <281@ecsvax.UUCP> dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) writes:
>This should appeal to fans of Olaf Stapledon.  I note that in any of the
>scenarios described (flat, open, or closed) the Universe ends with a
>bang or a whimper, but it does end, and there is no serious prospect for
>the survival of matter.  This clearly has negative implications for the
>longterm performance of most stocks.

Another interesting twist, however, can be found in a 198(4?) *Science*
article with a title including the word "Entropy" (so you can look it
up in the Reader's Guide to Periodicals).  It seems that in a "critical"
(what D Gary Grady calls a "flat") universe, if black holes form not
only on a galactic cluster level but on ever-larger scales, there could
be no limit to the increase of entropy in the universe.  That is,

	infinity
	 /
	|  dS/dt    =   infinity.
       /
     t = now

Freeman Dyson says that the correctness of the above equation is the 
only precondition for the never-ending continuation of life in the
universe; given a "sufficiently resourceful intelligence".  Civilization
woould live off the Hawking radiation emitted from black holes.  
Unfortunately, the author of the *Science* article points out, life forms
based on our sort of matter could not pull this trick.  However, radically
different life forms might:  the author suggests that life based on
electron-positron plasma -- if such "life" might be possible -- could
endure.

The author wisely doesn't attempt to grapple with the obvious 
philosophical issues about the definition of life, etc., and neither,
at this moment, will I.

--Paul V Torek, umcp-cs!flink