ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) (11/20/85)
[Note- this is a partial response to a flame from Mr. Gwyn concerning a previous article of mine..] >Consider simultaneity: before Einstein, it was assumed that simultaneity was >an inherent property of the relationship between two events; either they >were simultaneous or they were not. But Einstein pointed out that >whether two events are perceived as simultaneous depends upon the location of >the observer. *Any* two different events will be appear to be simultaneous >to an observer at the right location. - Jim Balter This is an overstatement -- only two events separated by a SPACELIKE 4-distance can be seen as `simultaneous' by an appropriately chosen observer. BTW, two events which can be causally connected must be separated by a TIMELIKE (or NULL, in the limiting case) 4-distance. 4-distance is invariant to all observers, whereas the spatial or temporal separations vary according to observers. The formula for 4-distance between two events is: ------------ \/ x*x - t*t where x is the spatial distance (in terms of the speed of light).. t is the amount of time.. ..separating the two events. 4-distances are categorized: >0 Spacelike =0 Null imaginary Timelike Timelike and null intervals are crucial to modern notions of causality. Since 4-distances are invariant, if I throw a rock thereby breaking a window, all observers will agree on the order of events (I threw the rock, then the window broke). -michael
gwyn@brl-tgr.ARPA (Doug Gwyn <gwyn>) (11/29/85)
> [Note- this is a partial response to a flame from Mr. Gwyn concerning > a previous article of mine..] > ... > >to an observer at the right location. - Jim Balter Uh, "Jim Balter" is not a pseudonym of mine, thanks just the same. I tried to figure out what this message might nonetheless have to do with anything I ever "flamed" about, but since it didn't say anything I didn't already know I think you have simply misattributed the posting to which you were responding. The only thing I recall in this regard was a statement that Hume is not the final word on causality. Unless you were perhaps talking about frictionless monkeys?