[net.games.pbm] Diplomacy game spring 1901

rcb@rti-sel.UUCP (Random) (02/15/85)

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For all you diplomacy freaks, here is another spring 1901 move to
comtemplate.

Austria
	Budapest	-> Serbia
	Vienna		-> Budapest
	Trieste		-> Albania

England
	Edinburgh	-> Norwegian Sea
	London		-> North Sea
	Liverpool	-> Edinburgh

France
	Paris		-> Burgundy
	Marseilles	-> Spain
	Brest		-> Mid-Atlantic

Germany
	Berlin		-> Kiel
	Kiel		-> Holland 
	Munich		holds	

Italy
	Venice		-> Trieste
	Rome		-> Apulia
	Naples		-> Ionian

Russia
	Warsaw		-> Silesia
	St. Pete	-> Gulf of Bothnia
	Sevastopol	-> Black Sea		(Failed due to turkey)
	Moscow		-> Ukraine

Turkey
	Ankara		-> Black Sea		(Failed due to russia)
	Constantinople	-> Bulgaria
	Smyrna		-> Constantinople

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david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (02/21/85)

> Austria
> 	Budapest	-> Serbia
> 	Vienna		-> Budapest
> 	Trieste		-> Albania
 
See comments under Italy.

> England
> 	Edinburgh	-> Norwegian Sea
> 	London		-> North Sea
> 	Liverpool	-> Edinburgh
 
England has agreed to a nonagression pact with France, and fully
expects France to keep it (at least in the near future).  Her position
remains elastic.

> France
> 	Paris		-> Burgundy
> 	Marseilles	-> Spain
> 	Brest		-> Mid-Atlantic
 
France trusted Germany not to invade Burgundy in 1901, but evidently
will trust the Germans no further.  France probably will press for
English support of or German concession to French claims in Belgium.

> Germany
> 	Berlin		-> Kiel
> 	Kiel		-> Holland 
> 	Munich		holds	
 
Germany evidently will be satisfied with the gain of two centers. If
that was so, why didn't they order Kiel -> Denmark, thus allowing
effective retaliation for Russian perfidy?  Though tactically in the
poorest position (apparently the only power without a "friend"), well
timed offers (support into Sweden for England, into Belgium for
France) may create favorable conditions for a "Drang nach Osten".
England would likely be satisfied with such an arrangement; French
diplomacy might still seek to incite London against Berlin (the French
tend to be most jealous of English understandings with third parties).

> Italy
> 	Venice		-> Trieste
> 	Rome		-> Apulia
> 	Naples		-> Ionian
 
The dangerous early stab of Austria---or is it?  The concurrent move
to Apulia raises the possibility of A Apu -> Tun, F Ion C A Apu ->
Tun, A Tri -> Alb, build F Nap, and an Austro-Italian alliance has a
strong attack on Turkey with every Italian unit in a position to
effect the outcome in the East.

> Russia
> 	Warsaw		-> Silesia
> 	St. Pete	-> Gulf of Bothnia
> 	Sevastopol	-> Black Sea		(Failed due to turkey)
> 	Moscow		-> Ukraine
 
Russia would not simultaneously attack Germany and Turkey, ergo the
stand-off in the Black Sea was prearranged.  However, the Russians
have not yet tipped their hand as to whether they will side with
Constantinople or Vienna in the future.

> Turkey
> 	Ankara		-> Black Sea		(Failed due to russia)
> 	Constantinople	-> Bulgaria
> 	Smyrna		-> Constantinople

Turkey wishes to ally with Russia, but isn't TOO trusting.  If she
succeeds in gaining that alliance, and Italy is allied with Austria,
she will be at a disadvantage compared to the fully integrated forces
of the hostile alliance.  On the other hand, she will not be so
subject to a devastating stab as the Austrians. 

Overall, an interesting set of moves.  Austria is at substantial risk,
but has much to gain, too.  Given the lack of German ambition for
three centers, the failure to order Kiel to Denmark was a tactical
error without any rationale.  Every other country has reasonable
prospects and are at minimal immediate risk.

						David Rubin

roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (02/23/85)

Uh, excuse me, but what game are you talking about?

The "postal" (i.e. Snail Mail) Diplomacy hobby has Boardman numbers
(named after John Boardman, one of the founders of the postal hobby).
There is a Boardman number custodian to whom GM's write to get numbers.
The custodian just assigns sequential numbers to games (i.e. 1985A was
the first game this year).  Can we do something like that here?

I've been out of the postal hobby for the past few years -- anybody out
there know who the current BNC is?  Perhaps we could synchronize?
-- 

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