msj@gitpyr.UUCP (Mike St. Johns) (07/03/85)
England
f edi - nwg
f lon - nth
a lvp - edi
Russia
<F SEV - BLA> (Fails)
f stp (sc) - gob (Gulf of bothnia)
a war - gal
a mos - ukr
France
a par - pic
f bre - mid
a mar - bur
Italy
f nap - ion
a rom - apu
a ven - trl (Tyrolia)
Turkey
<F ANK - BLA> (Fails)
a con - bul
a smy - arm
Germany
f kie - den
a mun - ruh
a ber - sil
Austria - Hungary
a vie - bud
a bud - ser
a tri - alb
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Mike St. Johns
Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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StJohns@MIT-Multics.ARPA (404) 982-0035david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (07/07/85)
> England > f edi - nwg > f lon - nth > a lvp - edi Standard. Now: Russia or Germany? > Russia > <F SEV - BLA> (Fails) > f stp (sc) - gob (Gulf of bothnia) > a war - gal > a mos - ukr Aggressive against Austria and Turkey. This works out well when Germany and England are otherwise occupied, but the German moves indicate that Germany and Turkey were Russia's real enemies, and the attack on Austria therefore most unfortunate. If Austria was as devious as I speculate below, Russia will find little difficulty in making amends, though gaining any builds remains problematic. If Austria did not have its hands in as many cookie jars as I speculate, than Russia has a lot of feathers to be smoothed -- maybe. > France > a par - pic > f bre - mid > a mar - bur Gunning for Belgium in a big way, France apparently anticipated the Eastern scramble very well. With Germany not likely to even try for Belgium, the possibility of a Franco-Italian assault on Bavaria opens up. However, for reasons given below, it appears the Italians would not participate, at least not unless they were the ones to gain the supply center. > Italy > f nap - ion > a rom - apu > a ven - trl (Tyrolia) Italy and Austria have apparently reached an extensive understanding. Let's not beat about anymore: these two are solid allies. It is unclear how the Austrians will react to the Russian invasion, but Italian Mediterranean ambitions and Turkish Balkan ambitions argue in favor of forgiving and forgetting. The Italian army in the Tyrol would best be used to balance power in the West. Thus, I'd look for Italy to seek to counter any English intervention in the likely Franco-German squabble. > Turkey > <F ANK - BLA> (Fails) > a con - bul > a smy - arm The attack on Russia is not very promising, especially as an ACTIVE Austro-Italian alliance (as opposed to those two merely agreeing to leave each other alone) looms. Despite the fact that only Russia faces two enemies, Turkey is the least secure, as it would not take very much to solidify a triple alliance against her. In addition, her one friend may see fit to abandon her; see below. > Germany > f kie - den > a mun - ruh > a ber - sil This was definitely NOT the one time out of ten that I'd advise an attack on Russia. Germany must secure England's cooperation, or the Germans will find themselves with only one build -- disasterous for a country in such a central location (with Italy in the Tyrol, SIX neighbors). Germany's might very well decide to cut her potential losses, defend Munich, and still go for Holland, adding more fuel to the flame that seems to treaten to roast Turkey. A shakey start, but Germany may recover if she can avert Italian or British intervention. > Austria - Hungary > a vie - bud > a bud - ser > a tri - alb Standard, though a vie - bud seems weak to me. Apparently desirous of being able to threaten Rumania without entering Galicia, Austria chose a policy that was a middle course between threatening Russia and not threatening Russia. It suggests that Austria may be considering cooperation with Turkey, though this would be inconsistent with the Italian alliance. Perhaps it was Austria's intention to go for Rumania all along, playing for three builds, while avoiding a showdown with the Russians. If so, it is likely that Austria encouraged Turkey and Germany in their attacks without committing herself to joining them -- a truly adept attempt to occupy Rumania and still have Russian friendship. Hmmm... Summary: Two alliances appeared from the first turn: an apparently solid and comprehensive Austro-Italian one, and a now shakey offensive Germano-Turkish one. Countries doing poorly are Russia (no builds?) and Turkey (no friends?). Countries off to good start APPEAR to be Austria and Italy (coordinated action in the midst of chaos). In fact, if the Austrians have actually done diplomatically what I think they might have done (encouraged Germany and Turkey to attack Russia unsuccessfully to create the circumstances under which Russia might cede, or resign themeselves to the loss of, Rumania AND still ally themselves with the Dual Monarchy), my hat off to Vienna! I only question the tremendous faith required in Italian motives. David Rubin {allegra|astrovax|princeton}!fisher!david
msj@gitpyr.UUCP (Mike St. Johns) (07/09/85)
Thanks for the running commentary on the game I am running. I am
finding this first move interesting also. The next move for the game
is due 15 July 85 so I will be posting the fall results soon after.
Erratta: a tri - alb for Austria is actually f tri - alb.
Mike
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Mike St. Johns
Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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StJohns@MIT-Multics.ARPA (404) 982-0035