[ont.uucp] Why is utai not updating paths?

david@geac.UUCP (David Haynes) (09/16/88)

Can anyone at utai please tell me why the paths data files have not
been updated for quite a while? I have posted a new site entry and
a friend has posted updates to his map entry and none of these have
appeared in a new map posting. 

This makes it very frustrating when your main mail node is unknown
to most of the net (even though you did register your site with
what you thought was sufficient lead time).

-david-
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David Haynes				yunexus!murder!david

rayan@ai.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen) (09/17/88)

In article <3226@geac.UUCP> david@geac.UUCP (David Haynes) writes:
# Can anyone at utai please tell me why the paths data files have not
# been updated for quite a while? I have posted a new site entry and
# a friend has posted updates to his map entry and none of these have
# appeared in a new map posting. 
# 
# This makes it very frustrating when your main mail node is unknown
# to most of the net (even though you did register your site with
# what you thought was sufficient lead time).

The u.can.on.1 file that was just posted (finally!) from rutgers, and
a few days earlier from here, has an entry for ``murder'' dated Aug. 29th.
the file itself was generated on Sept. 11th and contains all updates
received by then.  What are you talking about?

"Sufficient lead time" is a relative concept.  Before Usenix (and the
last^N Telebit offer deadline) I was very careful to send in new maps
to Rutgers.  During Usenix I asked Mel Pleasant if those maps had gone
out, and he said "Oh yes, they did.".  I find out later it was the
previous month's maps he had just then sent out.  So I send in new
updates and they disappear.  So then Mel goes on holidays and things
break.  So all of a sudden utai can't connect to rutgers to drop off
the maps.  This goes on for a few weeks until I get ahold of Mel's
vacation replacement.  He's busy and doesn't get around to looking at
the problem for another couple of weeks, after I've sent him 3 pleading
messages.  He eventually gives up and asks me to mail the maps to him,
which I did last Sunday.  Finally the last map file shows up here
today.  It is a very speedy process, as you can tell.  Our connection
to rutgers is still broken.  Grumble :-(

If you or anyone else is sending mail through UofT, using us as autorouters,
there is no guarantee the latest routing data will be used (there are 2
route databases on the network, one of which is updated more irregularly
than the other).

I usually make new maps every couple of weeks.  Whether or not they make
it to Rutgers is a completely different issue, alas.  Now that Mel is back,
maybe things will get fixed.

rayan

david@geac.UUCP (David Haynes) (09/19/88)

In article <88Sep17.004459edt.880@neat.ai.toronto.edu> rayan@ai.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen) writes:
:In article <3226@geac.UUCP> david@geac.UUCP (David Haynes) writes:
:# Can anyone at utai please tell me why the paths data files have not
:# been updated for quite a while? I have posted a new site entry and
:# a friend has posted updates to his map entry and none of these have
:# appeared in a new map posting. 
:
:The u.can.on.1 file that was just posted (finally!) from rutgers, and
:a few days earlier from here, has an entry for ``murder'' dated Aug. 29th.
:the file itself was generated on Sept. 11th and contains all updates
:received by then.  What are you talking about?

Typical. I decide to wait until Friday to post about this and bang!
Saturday morning the update shows up on this site. Sigh!

:I usually make new maps every couple of weeks.  Whether or not they make
:it to Rutgers is a completely different issue, alas.  Now that Mel is back,
:maybe things will get fixed.
:
:rayan

Thanks for the answer to my question. It was not, "Why isn't Rayan doing
his (voluntary) job?" but, "Why have I not seen the updates?".  The
culprit is rutgers (my auto path rebuild script will only accept
official postings - maybe I'll have to broaden that definition a little ;-))

-david-