kevin@jtsv16.UUCP (kevin brighton) (06/05/89)
I suppose this question has been asked before, but if so, I didn't catch it. I want to send mail to someone on bitnet, specifically psuecl.bitnet. Smail tells me it doesn't know how to get there from here. I presume there is a gateway somewhere which can forward mail to bitnet sites. Anybody know which one and how to address it? We only have uucp connections. Kevin. -- Kevin Brighton kevin@jtsv16.jts.com JTS Computer Systems Ltd. { suncan | geac | uunet }!jtsv16!kevin Toronto, Ontario, CANADA +1 416 665 8910
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (06/06/89)
In article <528@jtsv16.UUCP> kevin@jtsv16.UUCP (kevin brighton) writes: |I suppose this question has been asked before, but if so, I didn't catch it. | |I want to send mail to someone on bitnet, specifically psuecl.bitnet. |Smail tells me it doesn't know how to get there from here. I presume |there is a gateway somewhere which can forward mail to bitnet sites. |Anybody know which one and how to address it? We only have uucp |connections. In your smail "paths" file, you need a line which refers to ".bitnet", so in your pathalias local file make a line which says: .bitnet utgpu(LOCAL) assuming you are posting from a Toronto site, and that you have a set of valid map entries for routing to "utgpu". Although "utgpu" isn't the only such gateway, it is one of the most locally available. You must be respectful of this resource so as not to overtax its capacity. The machine which is know as "utgpu" to the uucp world is known as "UTORGPU" in BitNet-land. You can send to "<person>@<host>.bitnet" and the mail ought to go thru as long as <person> & <host> exist, etc. Going the other way, you must explicitly route out from utgpu: "<route>!<...>!<site>!<person> AT UTORGPU". Note that the VM/CMS user *must* have the "mixed-case" option set on in his mailer so that it won't convert everything to caps in the header & get the mail misrouted. One way to do this easily is to use a "MAIL NAMES" file which associates a nickname with all the boring details - you then just mail to "<nickname>" and worry less 8^)... Cheers, -- __ Bruce Becker Toronto, Ont. w \cc/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `/v/-e BitNet: BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET _< >_ "Like, um, it *was* Jimi, I am so sure" - Lily of the Valley Girls
kevin@jtsv16.UUCP (kevin) (06/07/89)
Thanks to those who replied to my message about mail to bitnet. The real problem was that we were not sending the d.Top file through the scripts we use to create the paths file for smail (red face). A couple of people suggested routing through utgpu, but smail says rutgers is the path to take. Since rutgers is the "official" gateway, I'll use that instead of burning up cycles on utgpu. Kevin. -- Kevin Brighton kevin@jtsv16.jts.com JTS Computer Systems Ltd. { suncan | geac | uunet }!jtsv16!kevin Toronto, Ontario, CANADA +1 416 665 8910
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (06/09/89)
In article <532@jtsv16.UUCP> kevin@jtsv16.UUCP (kevin) writes: >A couple of people suggested routing through utgpu, but smail >says rutgers is the path to take. Since rutgers is the "official" >gateway, I'll use that instead of burning up cycles on utgpu. So you'd rather burn up cycles on systems all over eastern north america instead? "smail" says rutgers because you haven't RTFM 8^)... I'll quote from the preamble to the uucp pathalias map entry file "u.can.1" - # This file contains routing information for the Canadian .Ca subdomains. # The purpose of this preamble is to shut up pathalias if the local host # does not declare any other links that should be used for this purpose. # IT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that local gateways, to NetNorth, CDNnet, and # the Internet, be identified, and by their permission you should add lines # like: # # nngw netnorth-ca-gws(DEDICATED) # cdngw cdnnet-ca-gws(DEDICATED) # inetgw internet-ca-gws(DEDICATED) [...] Netnorth is the Canadian contingent of BitNet. In this case "nngw" would, with their permission, be one of "utgpu", "utai" or similar here in Toronto. In other areas the gateway member list should be consulted & the local members queried for possible routing. The additions would be kept in your local file of fixes etc. for the pathalias database. Cheers, -- __ Bruce Becker Toronto, Ont. w \cc/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `/v/-e BitNet: BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET _< >_ "Like, um, it *was* Jimi, I am so sure" - Lily of the Valley Girls
kevin@jtsv16.UUCP (kevin) (06/12/89)
In article <577@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes: ># IT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that local gateways, to NetNorth, CDNnet, and ># the Internet, be identified, and by their permission you should add lines [...] Well, we have a connection to uunet, so the path from here to rutgers is uunet!rutgers. The path to utgpu is geac!utgpu. It seems to me that, since we pay for the uunet traffic directly, and utgpu is not advertising that they want to be everyone's forwarder, this is a better path. -- Kevin Brighton kevin@jtsv16.jts.com JTS Computer Systems Ltd. { suncan | geac | uunet }!jtsv16!kevin Toronto, Ontario, CANADA +1 416 665 8910