[net.wines] 1982 bordeaux's

mjn@teddy.UUCP (01/06/86)

Here's a little project I have started working on, which some of you might
be intrested in furthering:

I am compiling a list of wines to assembled into a mixed case and laid to
rest for 10 years.  I am looking for wine suggestions which most 
characterize the 1982 Bordeaux's.  What is your favorite St. Julien?
St. Emilion, Haut-Medoc? etc.  Since these will be resting for some
time, consider only those which will be coming into prime, or peaking in
ten years (this is a fortieth birthday present to myself).  Wines should
be in the $5 to $30 range (I doubt my wife will let me buy a Lafite).

Responses should be submitted to me via e-mail.  I will summarize and 
present the final list when complete.

-- 
		Mark J. Norton
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mcgrath@null.DEC (Edw. J. McGrath 225-4086 HLO1-1/Q08) (01/08/86)

Re:  compiling a list of wines to assemble into a mixed case.  

I would recommend that you 

mcgrath@null.DEC (Edw. J. McGrath 225-4086 HLO1-1/Q08) (01/08/86)

 
 
>I am compiling a list of wines to assembled into a mixed case and laid to
>rest for 10 years.  I am looking for wine suggestions which most 
>characterize the 1982 Bordeaux's.  What is your favorite St. Julien?
>etc.etc...

I did this last year and am putting together another with 82's and 83's.
I recommend a book "Bordeaux" by Robert Parker Jr. of "The Wine Advocate"
fame.  He has tasted ALL of the wines from ALL of the major chateaux several
times since 1961 or something like that.  He rates each chateau and each 
vintage on a numerical scale with some additional info on how long you 
should wait before drinking and when peak is likely to be, etc.  He also 
indicates "bargains".  The cost of the book is about the cost of an average
bottle of 82 bordeaux.  There is much more information with much higher 
reliability in this book than you are likely to get from the "winos" that
contribute to net.wines. :-)  But seriously, I found it really valuable
and well worth the cost.  

Ed McGrath

alan@mtxinu.UUCP (Alan Tobey) (01/10/86)

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> >I am compiling a list of wines to assembled into a mixed case and laid to
> >rest for 10 years.  I am looking for wine suggestions which most 
> >characterize the 1982 Bordeaux's.  What is your favorite St. Julien?
> >etc.etc...
> 
> I did this last year and am putting together another with 82's and 83's.
> I recommend a book "Bordeaux" by Robert Parker Jr. of "The Wine Advocate"
> fame.  

Be cautious about trusting Parker's taste, which reflects a very consistent
bias toward "big" wines.  He vastly prefers strong fruity flavors, lots
of guts and alcohol and tannin, and dismisses what some others praise
for elegance and subtlety.  Be ESPECIALLY cautious about his 82 Bordeaux
rankings; his opinions on the vintage and its aging possibilities seem
vastly overblown.  

For what it's worth (I'm not a pedigreed expert but have been consistently
following Bordeaux since the 62 vintage), I think 82s are generally too
over-ripe and raisiny to age well.  The alcoholic hotness of many of them
should be a serious concern.  I've only bought a few Pomerols from 82 to
age; I think this is the only successful region.  Better bets:  81s from
Pauillac and St. Julien, and 83s from almost anywhere in the Medoc.
81s should be maturing by the early 90s; 83s will last you well into the
next millenium.  And a bargain tip: 83 Ch. La Tour de By (Begadan/Medoc),
soft and balanced, $6 in California, a great one for 88-89.