[net.wines] Tasting results: 1983 Red Burgundies

reid@glacier.ARPA (01/19/86)

From: Wilkins@SRI-AI (David Wilkins)

 		Results of tasting: Red Burgundy

			15 January 1986

Lowest score is best, last columns show division of votes.  Each wine was
ranked as being first through eighth by 13 tasters.  This was a tasting
organized by Ross Bott and included many experienced wine tasters.

 TP AvRank 				Cost  Ident First Second Third Last
 25  1.92  82 Chalone (Pinnacles)	20.00	E     6     6      0     0
 29  2.23  82 Pommard Rugiens (LaJuene) 20.00	C     4     4      3     0
 45  3.46  83 Chass. Mon C SJean Pillot	16.00	B     1     2      4     0
 60  4.62  82 Morey St Denis (D. Dujac)	15.00	F     1     1      4     2
 72  5.54  83 Pommard           Boillot	19.00	G     0     0      0     0
 77  5.92  83 Cote de Nuit Vill Boillot 14.00	A     0     0      1     3
 78  6.00  83 Volnay 1er Angles Boillot 22.00	H     1     0      1     5
 82  6.31  83 Gevrey Chambertin Boillot 27.50	D     0     0      0     3

 Significance of Ratings

WINE       1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   
  A                           -+-
  B                 -+-
  C            -+-
  D                            -+-
  E           -+-
  F                     -+-
  G                         -+-
  H                           -+-

Summary of results and my personal tasting notes:

There was incredibly strong group agreement on which wines were best -- more
than I've ever seen in a tasting of equally priced wines.  I agree almost
completely with the group, the same 1-2, I liked the Dujac third, and the four
Boillots last with no preference amoung them as they were all pretty poor.
The 82 Chalone got 6 firsts, 6 seconds and a 7th from 13 tasters.  It had a
long, complex nose with fruit and violets.  In the mouth it had great
structure and balance, nice fruit, long finish, moderate tannin, and lots of
class.  Excellent wine.  The Rugiens had a rich, ripe, long nose.  IN the
mouth, rich, velvety fruit, medium tannin, good balance, long finish, black
cherry character.  Didn't have the backbone of great wine but its very good.

The Dujac was also very nice and selling for a reasonable price, which is a
surprise.  Nose was smokey and long.  In the mouth, dusty, nice fruit, good
balance, long finish, very enjoyable.  This and the Chalone are the best buys.
The Montrachet was good but not great.  Nose showed good fruit with a rich,
ripe character.  In the mouth, lush, velvety fruit, nice balance and a good
finish.

The Boillot wines were all disappoinments and made a clean sweep of the last
four places.  They all had a woody, astringent, bitter character in the mouth,
and weren't very interesting.  In the nose, the Cote de Nuit was pleasant if
uninteresting, the Gevrey was ripe and closed, the Pommard was also very closed,
and the Volnay was sipe, with a cherry/cough syrup character.  This wines
may show better after some age, but it is unlikely the bitter quality will
go away.  I'd steer clear of them myself.  Another ripoff brought to you
by the wine makers of Burgundy!  (so what else is new?)
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	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA

elf@utcsri.UUCP (Eugene Fiume) (01/23/86)

> From: Wilkins@SRI-AI (David Wilkins)
> 
>  		Results of tasting: Red Burgundy
> 
> 			15 January 1986
> 
> Lowest score is best, last columns show division of votes.  Each wine was
> ranked as being first through eighth by 13 tasters.  This was a tasting
> organized by Ross Bott and included many experienced wine tasters.
> 
>  TP AvRank 				Cost  Ident First Second Third Last
>  25  1.92  82 Chalone (Pinnacles)	20.00	E     6     6      0     0

Foul!  I thought for a second that a new French appellation had suddenly
come into existence.  Although I understand that Chalone makes a wonderful
wine based on Pinot Noir, it is hardly informative to call it a Red Burgundy,
since, unless some envious French spies have been successful in uprooting
it, it is nestled rather comfortably in the hills of sunny California.

Can someone in the Know please send me some info about this legendary
(in Canada, at any rate) vineyard?
-- 
Eugene Fiume
{decvax|allegra}!utcsri!elf

reid@glacier.ARPA (Brian Reid) (01/24/86)

[Background: I have recently started gatewaying Dave Wilkins' tasting notes
from our wine tasting group into net.wines. Please don't bother Wilkins
with questions about it. Bother me.]

We like to include one "ringer" in a tasting flight just for fun and for
cross-calibration. So a "French Burgundy" tasting might have one California
wine, or a "1983 California Chardonnay" tasting might have one 79 chardonnay
or one Batard-montrachet in it, just to help keep people honest. Sometimes
the ringer wins.
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	Brian Reid	decwrl!glacier!reid
	Stanford	reid@SU-Glacier.ARPA