tmh@ihldt.UUCP (Tom Harris) (02/17/84)
I have just heard a very nasty rumor. It seems that one of the large U.S. Insurance companies (Continental?) has refused to pay the claim on the airliner downed by the Soviets. The reason it seems is that they asked for the specs on the frame (in order to order the replacement) and found out that it was modified in some top secret fashion and the company also found out that the crew was comprised of military personel. Part of the rumor was that the insurance company then cancelled all of KLMs other policies as well. This rumor came to me at least fourth hand, has anybody else heard similar stories? Tom Harris ihldt!tmh
chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/19/84)
I don't believe the rumour on the insurance company refusing to pay on the KLA flight is true. If I remember properly, a $70million dollar claim was paid some 48 hours after the shooting of the plane was confirmed, and KLA announced that it would all go to the next of kin. -- From the house at Pooh Corner: Chuq 'Nuke Wobegon' Von Rospach {fortune,menlo70}!nsc!chuqui Have you hugged your Pooh today? It's showtime, folks!
fair@dual.UUCP (Erik E. Fair) (02/20/84)
You should be careful: The airliner shot down by the Soviets was Korean Air Lines (KAL), not KLM (The official Dutch Airline). As for the rumor, it's news to me. Erik E. Fair dual!fair@BERKELEY.ARPA {ucbvax,ihnp4,cbosgd,amd70,zehntel,fortune,unisoft,onyx,its}!dual!fair Dual Systems Corporation, Berkeley, California
bcw@duke.UUCP (Bruce C. Wright) (02/22/84)
It's my impression that insurance companies traditionally don't pay out claims when the damage was caused by acts of war (or similar situations). This might explain the entire reason for Continental's refusal to pay ... hadn't heard anything about it before this though. Bruce C. Wright
stevel@haddock.UUCP (02/22/84)
#R:ihldt:-225100:haddock:15500002:000:231 haddock!stevel Feb 21 15:37:00 1984 KLM is the Dutch national airline. Korean Airline has no such abreviation that I know of. Repeat KLM had nothing to do with the Korean airline 007 flight. Steve Ludlum, decvax!yale-co!ima!stevel, {ucbvax|ihnp4}!cbosgd!ima!stevel
hga@mit-eddie.UUCP (Harold Ancell) (02/26/84)
Well, given that South Korea is in a near state of war with North Korea, it would make sense for them to a) Have their civilian transports build with extra strong frames and decks, so that they could be pressed into service as military transports if need be (something we would be very wise to do.) And b) Keep their pilots in their Air Force Reserve. Or something like the Merchant Marine. Good pilots are a scarce and expensive resource. - Harold
scw@cepu.UUCP (02/27/84)
>Well, given that South Korea is in a near state of war with North Korea, >it would make sense for them to > >a) Have their civilian transports build with extra strong frames and >decks, so that they could be pressed into service as military transports >if need be (something we would be very wise to do.) And Interestingly enough there was a proposal about 10 years ago to do just that with all of the US Air carriers jumbos. As I recall it fell through because the DoD wouldn't pay for the extra fuel costs (to haul the extra airframe around). >b) Keep their pilots in their Air Force Reserve. Or something like the >Merchant Marine. Good pilots are a scarce and expensive resource. Lots of our (US) pilots are in the reserves (in fact probably most of them) the Airlines like to hire Military pilots (lots of Multi-engine time) and once you have a commission <and there are no more enlisted pilots> it's *REAL* hard to get rid of it. -- Stephen C. Woods (VA Wadsworth Med Ctr./UCLA Dept. of Neurology) uucp: { {ihnp4, uiucdcs}!bradley, hao, trwrb, sdcsvax!bmcg}!cepu!scw ARPA: cepu!scw@ucla-locus location: N 34 06'37" W 118 25'43"
paul@uiucuxc.UUCP (03/11/84)
#R:mit-eddi:-134300:uiucuxc:12300002:000:1420 uiucuxc!paul Mar 10 20:03:00 1984 Why do people who spy for a living choose Untied* to Seoul? "Seems like I'm always off to South Korea for one reason or another, and quite often those trips coincide with sensitive Soviet military maneuvers off Sakhalin Island. I appreciate Untied's service, their extra-wide seats, and their having the good sense to hire pilots who will back off on their spy missions when they see tracer bullets, rather than risk horrible death at the hands of a heat-seeking missile. After all, I'm no good to the Company if I'm dead." Phil Kimby Unspecified Capacity Overseas International Euphemism, Inc. No pilot ever joins Untied Airlines before undergoing a battery of psychological tests. We determine his temperament, ability to act under pressure, and whether he has a hidden grudge against the Russians because his grandfather's land was taken away during one invasion or another, a grudge that might possibly impinge upon his judgement and cause him to pursue an "accidental" overflight of Soviet military installations even after it becomes apparent that to do so will mean certain death to himself and his passengers. Larry McDonald didn't listen to his friend Phil Kimby's advice. Don't you make the same mistake. Fly with friendly spies. Untied. ------ * Just in case. Taken from NatLamp's Jan 84 issue: Little Brother is Watching You. Paul Pomes ihnp4!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!paul University of Illinois, CSO