[net.rumor] interesting rumor

tmh@ihldt.UUCP (Tom Harris) (02/17/84)

I have just heard a very nasty rumor.  It seems that one of the
large U.S. Insurance companies (Continental?) has refused to
pay the claim on the airliner downed by the Soviets.  The reason
it seems is that they asked for the specs on the frame (in order
to order the replacement) and found out that it was modified in
some top secret fashion and the company also found out that the
crew was comprised of military personel.  Part of the rumor was
that the insurance company then cancelled all of KLMs other
policies as well.  This rumor came to me at least fourth hand, 
has anybody else heard similar stories?

					Tom Harris
					ihldt!tmh

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) (02/19/84)

 I don't believe the rumour on the insurance company refusing to pay on the
 KLA flight is true. If I remember properly, a $70million dollar claim was
 paid some 48 hours after the shooting of the plane was confirmed, and KLA
 announced that it would all go to the next of kin.


-- 
From the house at Pooh Corner:		Chuq 'Nuke Wobegon' Von Rospach
{fortune,menlo70}!nsc!chuqui		Have you hugged your Pooh today?

It's showtime, folks!

fair@dual.UUCP (Erik E. Fair) (02/20/84)

You should be careful: The airliner shot down by the Soviets was
Korean Air Lines (KAL), not KLM (The official Dutch Airline).

As for the rumor, it's news to me.

	Erik E. Fair

	dual!fair@BERKELEY.ARPA
	{ucbvax,ihnp4,cbosgd,amd70,zehntel,fortune,unisoft,onyx,its}!dual!fair
	Dual Systems Corporation, Berkeley, California

bcw@duke.UUCP (Bruce C. Wright) (02/22/84)

It's my impression that insurance companies traditionally don't pay
out claims when the damage was caused by acts of war (or similar
situations).  This might explain the entire reason for Continental's
refusal to pay ... hadn't heard anything about it before this though.

				Bruce C. Wright

stevel@haddock.UUCP (02/22/84)

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haddock!stevel    Feb 21 15:37:00 1984

KLM is the Dutch national airline. Korean Airline has no such
abreviation that I know of.

Repeat KLM had nothing to do with the Korean airline 007 flight.

Steve Ludlum, decvax!yale-co!ima!stevel, {ucbvax|ihnp4}!cbosgd!ima!stevel

hga@mit-eddie.UUCP (Harold Ancell) (02/26/84)

Well, given that South Korea is in a near state of war with North Korea,
it would make sense for them to

a) Have their civilian transports build with extra strong frames and
decks, so that they could be pressed into service as military transports
if need be (something we would be very wise to do.)  And

b) Keep their pilots in their Air Force Reserve.  Or something like the
Merchant Marine.  Good pilots are a scarce and expensive resource.

					- Harold

scw@cepu.UUCP (02/27/84)

   >Well, given that South Korea is in a near state of war with North Korea,
   >it would make sense for them to
   >
   >a) Have their civilian transports build with extra strong frames and
   >decks, so that they could be pressed into service as military transports
   >if need be (something we would be very wise to do.)  And

Interestingly enough there was a proposal about 10 years ago to do just that
with all of the US Air carriers jumbos. As I recall it fell through because
the DoD wouldn't pay for the extra fuel costs (to haul the extra airframe
around).

   >b) Keep their pilots in their Air Force Reserve.  Or something like the
   >Merchant Marine.  Good pilots are a scarce and expensive resource.

Lots of our (US) pilots are in the reserves (in fact probably most of them)
the Airlines like to hire Military pilots (lots of Multi-engine time) and once
you have a commission <and there are no more enlisted pilots> it's *REAL*
hard to get rid of it.
-- 
Stephen C. Woods (VA Wadsworth Med Ctr./UCLA Dept. of Neurology)
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paul@uiucuxc.UUCP (03/11/84)

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uiucuxc!paul    Mar 10 20:03:00 1984

Why do people who spy for a living choose Untied* to Seoul?

"Seems like I'm always off to South Korea for one reason or another,
and quite often those trips coincide with sensitive Soviet military
maneuvers off Sakhalin Island.  I appreciate Untied's service, their
extra-wide seats, and their having the good sense to hire pilots who
will back off on their spy missions when they see tracer bullets, rather
than risk horrible death at the hands of a heat-seeking missile.  After
all, I'm no good to the Company if I'm dead."

	Phil Kimby
	Unspecified Capacity
	Overseas International Euphemism, Inc.

No pilot ever joins Untied Airlines before undergoing a battery of
psychological tests.  We determine his temperament, ability to act under
pressure, and whether he has a hidden grudge against the Russians because
his grandfather's land was taken away during one invasion or another, a
grudge that might possibly impinge upon his judgement and cause him to
pursue an "accidental" overflight of Soviet military installations even
after it becomes apparent that to do so will mean certain death to himself
and his passengers.

Larry McDonald didn't listen to his friend Phil Kimby's advice.  Don't you
make the same mistake.

Fly with friendly spies.  Untied.

------
* Just in case.

Taken from NatLamp's Jan 84 issue: Little Brother is Watching You.

Paul Pomes	ihnp4!uiucdcs!uiucuxc!paul
University of Illinois, CSO