palith@princeton.UUCP (Palith Balakrishnabati GUEST) (06/17/85)
>From allegra!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus Sat Jun 15 11:10:53 1985 >Date: Sat, 15 Jun 85 07:17:42 edt >From: Doug Alan <allegra!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus> >To: ihnp4!allegra!princeton!jansic >Subject: You Retarded Moron >Cc: allegra!princeton!down!fun-people > >I can't believe what an idiot you are. I have spent months >and months cultivating an interest in Kate Bush's avante >garde sound in net.music. Keep your goddamn stupid family >problems OFF THE NET. Pathetic people like you have no >business being in Kate Bush's life! She is beautiful >while you are a hideous fun-house mirror image of a giant stoma. >You are a stinking fetid stupid slob and you always will be, Jansic. >And if you show this to anyone I will deny that I ever sent it. >You're playing hard ball with the Big Boys now Jansic. > > <<As-tu tue le Jaseroque > Viens a mon coeur, fils rayonnais! > O jour frabbejais! Calleau! Callai!>> > Il Cortule dans sa joie. > > Doug Alan I am to be very very chagrined in these remarks about my good friend HUGH JANSIC. He is not a satire and it does me great pain to see such a good fellow feeling so poorly. These M.I.T. "hackers" behave cruelly with little or no impunity. I tell you one thing, in India this would not be tolerated. In Kanpur we had the highest moral code that we would adhere to very strictly, we were all from good families. Not like Mr. so-called M.I.T.-Eddie Nessus. Hugh does have very serious family problems and it is very easy to take advantage of such a person. But I expected more of the American net users. So what if HUGH JANSIC has to exxaggerate? He has many many hard problems that he has to solve on his own without help from anyone. Now Mr. Jansic is saying he is not willing to share his new big memory Unix code with anyone else and it is harming our technical abilities. Doesnt' anyone else care about this? Do you feel like a Mr. Big Shot, Mr. Doug Alan? Palith
nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (06/18/85)
> From: palith@princeton.UUCP (Palith Balakrishnabati GUEST) >>From allegra!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus Sat Jun 15 11:10:53 1985 >>Date: Sat, 15 Jun 85 07:17:42 edt >>From: Doug Alan <allegra!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus> >>To: ihnp4!allegra!princeton!jansic >>Subject: You Retarded Moron >>Cc: allegra!princeton!down!fun-people >> >>I can't believe what an idiot you are. I have spent months >>and months cultivating an interest in Kate Bush's avante >>garde sound in net.music. Keep your goddamn stupid family.... >> >> As-tu tue le Jaseroque >> Viens a mon coeur, fils rayonnais! >> O jour frabbejais! Calleau! Callai! >> Il Cortule dans sa joie. >> >> Doug Alan > I am to be very very chagrined in these remarks about my good friend.... > Do you feel like a Mr. Big Shot, Mr. Doug Alan? > Palith Wow, Palith! That's a pretty good impression you can do of me! How did you know that "The Jabberwocky" is my favorite poem? I've had the whole thing memorized by heart for years! Where did you get the French translation? Do you have the whole thing? Could you send me a copy? "And hath thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms my beamish boy! O Frabjous day, calloo, callay! He chortled in his joy" Doug Alan nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA)
jansic@princeton.UUCP (Hugh R. Jansic) (06/19/85)
My most profound apologies to everyone on the net. I did not mean for Palith to post the mail from Prof. Alan-- there was a misunderstanding. I am still trying to calm down. What I was trying to say was, that rock and roll stars sometimes march to the beat of a different drummer. Sometimes their beating on a drum can hurt people that are near them. While Binky is still hostile and competitive I am sure Prof. Alan and others can derive some pleasure from her music but there is no need to make her seem bigger than life. She's not the ultimate woman or anything. Ask my brother Timmy. But what Prof. Alan fails to realize is that a very formative part of Binky's life was spent in the United States, in a small suburb of Cleveland Ohio. This is where she had her first exposure to the members of the group DEVO who were then known as ``Finnegan's Wake.'' You see Binky was an AFS student who stayed with a local family. So Mr. know-it-all Doug Alan there you go. Here's a little more K.B. info for you and your fan-club friends. As an offering of peace I would like to end my posting with a fragment of my favorite poem IN FRENCH. Un deux, un deux, par le milieu, Le glaive vorpal fait pat-a-pan! La bete defaite, avec sa tete, Il rentre gallomphant. Hugh R. Jansic P.S. Professor Alan, maybe we could get together some time in Cambridge and discuss our difficulties. You seem to have had a very frustrating life too.
dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) (06/20/85)
In article <4488@mit-eddie.UUCP> nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) writes: ||Wow, Palith! That's a pretty good impression you can do of me! How did ||you know that "The Jabberwocky" is my favorite poem? I've had the whole ||thing memorized by heart for years! Where did you get the French ||translation? Do you have the whole thing? Could you send me a copy? || || "And hath thou slain the Jabberwock? ^^^^ - hast The French and German versions of Jabberwocky are published in Martin Gardner's *The Annotated Alice*. The German version is much more fun, actually. I have the whole thing on-line somewhere, if anyone cares. Es brillig war, die schlichte Toven wirrten und wimmelten in Waben und alle muemsige Burggoven die Momen-Raeth ausgraben Dave Sherman -- { ihnp4!utzoo pesnta utcs hcr decvax!utcsri } !lsuc!dave
nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) (06/21/85)
["Today I am a small blue thing"] Thanks to Rob Ferguson, I have received a copy of the forged message that was posted to the net with my name on it. This message was apparently generated by the Doug Alan algorithm that those wonderful eunuch wizards at Princeton, the Fun-People, are working on. I know that this algorithm exists because they have shown me its output on previous occasions. Since this algorithm represents, perhaps, my only chance at immortality, I feel that I must provide some constructive crticism and comments. To refresh the reader's memory, the forged letter began like this: > First of all I did not post the vicious attack on Hugh Jansic. Cute. Self-referential. Ironic. Quite my style. I would never begin a message with "First of all", though, and I did in fact post the article on Hugh Janic. It was not a vicious attack, however, but merely the unfortunate truth. > I suspect someone knowledgable in the use of computer networks such as > Mark Horton or Rob Pike or Sunny Kirsten (bitch) did this to tarnish > my otherwise illuminating insights in net.music. Now this is not characteristic of me at all. I would certainly not call anyone a "bitch" in public or private -- especially people I barely know and have no absolutely no reason to malign. My type of insult is usually on the order of insinuating that the person enjoys "Three's Company", etc. > I suspect one of them has a very advanced AI expert system for > generating articles apparently written by me. This is true, but it's Fun-People that have it, not Mark Horton, et. al. > The realization that the algorithm for my thinking process has propogated > over the net gives me a new feeling of imortality! I hope they wrote > down the method they use to emulate me. Cause then, even long after I'm > dead, I will exist on that piece of paper. Perhaps my algorithm will > even infect people's minds and they will become me. The whole world > might eventually become filled up with me's. It will be great! Why do > I even go on bothering to keep life within this useless piece of flesh I > now inhabit? I've transcended all that! I'm disposing of this useless > body tomorrow, but before I do, I'll send them all my Kate Bush albums, > fanzines, photographs, videotapes, blow-up loves dolls, and used panties > to put with the Doug Alan algorithm so that it will always be happy too. Now this is just a blatant rippoff of my private discussions with the Fun-People. It is too bad that the Doug Alan algorithm must plagerize what I have actually said. This is strong evidence that the algorithm does not completely duplicate my thought processes. If it did, there would be no reason for it to plagerize me -- it could think of brilliantly witty responses on its own. Also, this section was clearly of the highest quality of any of the material in the article. This strongly indicates that the quality of the output of the Doug Alan algorithm needs serious work. > I must confess I had mixed feelings upon reading about Kate Bush's > personal life. On the one hand I love Kate Bush more than any other > human in the whole world. On the other hand, the silly Yuppie > preciousness of her stage persona sends me into a real mean mood.... > [etc. ad nauseum] I'm sorry, but none of this correctly captures my feelings about Kate Bush or any other artist whom I admire. The hinting toward a love/hate relationship towards art I love may have some merit, but not for the reasons indicated. Kate Bush has achieved perfection and other artists have come close. I almost certainly never will, and I am jealous of these artists' talent -- talent that I will never have. It can be quite frustrating. But, in any case, back to the drawing board, fellows... > Sometimes I decide I will never listen to Kate Bush again and other > times I can't imagine not listening to Kate Bush every day. It's like > self-contradictory :-). This is certainly true -- it's difficult and sometimes painful to stare straight into the face of perfection. But I almost never use those silly smiley faces. If one's intent isn't clear without them, then perhaps he hasn't done a good enough job of writing. > Maybe there is a meta-language to describe > these kinds of situations. This reminds me of a Koan. > If the buffalo runs, he will fall into the trench; > If he returns, he will be butchered. > That little tail > Is a very strange thing. That's a really nice Koan! Good job! The Fun-People have also shown me some sample output of their Kate Bush lyric writing algorithm. It is fairly interesting, but unfortunately, completely unlike Kate Bush. I wish they would perfect this and have it make albums so that Kate Bush albums would come out at a faster rate than once every three years. In conclusion, I'd just like to reiterate that though I feel that this Doug Alan algorithm has some merit, it needs a lot of serious work before I will safely feel immortal! I'd also like to recommend that the Fun-People play with their newly created friends in private, rather than in public (where the pesky Commies might get a hint at our advanced technology). "O for the wings of any bird Other than a battery hen" Doug Alan nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA) P.S. There is not the smallest pinch of Ken Arndt in me, and I am EXTREMELY offended that anyone would make such a rediculous insinuation.
judd@tove.UUCP (Judd Rogers) (06/25/85)
How about a new news group, net.music.rumor, for all you people who insist on
sending stuff to every news group in the known universe.
--
Beware the Imp of Perversity!
Spoken: Judd Rogers
Uucp:...{allegra,seismo}!umcp-cs!judd@tovecredmond@watmath.UUCP (Chris Redmond) (06/27/85)
> > How about a new news group, net.music.rumor, for all you people who insist on > sending stuff to every news group in the known universe. Hear, hear. Does *anybody* in most of these newsgroups know, or care, what this exchange is all about? The arbitrary labelling of groups does mean that things have to be cross-posted sometimes. And arbitrary labelling is inevitable. But common sense might be applied once in a while. And I've heard a rumour that it's possible to *edit* the newsgroup line of a posting, to avoid sending something to (for example) net.singles or net.women which belongs in net.flame or net.micro. Maybe it's time for somebody to consider a regrouping of net.singles, net.women, net.women.only, net.social and net.politics into something else. For example: net.relationships, net.society, net.public-affairs, net.liberation and net.cosmetics. But that's just an idle suggestion, and it still wouldn't get rid of the random flamers. CAR
dsn@tove.UUCP (Dana S. Nau) (06/29/85)
>> >> How about a new news group, net.music.rumor, for all you people who insist on >> sending stuff to every news group in the known universe. It's too bad that the news software doesn't prohibit people from putting more than, say, two newsgroups on the "Newsgroups:" line! -- Dana S. Nau, Computer Science Dept., U. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742 ARPA: dsn@maryland CSNet: dsn@umcp-cs UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!dsn Phone: (301) 454-7932
weltyc@rpics.UUCP (Christopher A. Welty (weltyc@rpi)) (07/04/85)
>> >> How about a new news group, net.music.rumor, for all you people who insist on >> sending stuff to every news group in the known universe. > > Hear, hear. > > Does *anybody* in most of these newsgroups know, or care, what this > exchange is all about? I personally can't stand Kate Bush, and I don't care about her albums. Far be it from me to ban these fanatics from their right to express their opinions...but to send it to sixty thousand groups consisting of more people who don't know or care who the hell Kate Bush is than people who do, is a little ridiculous...but then, I guess I just fell into that trap, didn't I. ...uhhh....while I'm at it, anyone know when the next GENESIS album is supposed to come out?