al@mot.UUCP (Al Filipski) (10/29/85)
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Has anyone got any information about a "cold cure" used in Israel that
consists of controlled breathing of hot air or steam? Supposedly the
heat either weakens the viruses or bolsters the body's immune system
(as a fever does) or both. I have heard the customary story that it
is being kept out of the USA by the FDA or the medical establishment
or some such conservative conspiracy. There are more quacks around
these days than you can shake a caduceus at, from Iridologists to
Reflexologists, and I am suspicious of new "cures", but, as everyone
knows, "if you read it on the net, it must be so", so does anyone
know about this?
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Alan Filipski, UNIX group, Motorola Microsystems, Tempe, AZ U.S.A 85282
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------------------------------------------------------------------------tim@hpfcla.UUCP (10/30/85)
I beleive there was some market research on a 'nose clip'. This worked liked the plugged up nose - causing an increase in temperature that end the cold sooner. I also seem to remember a medicated 'kleenex'. Tim Mikkelsen ...!hplabs!hpfcla!tim
matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) (10/30/85)
Whenever I used to go to the student death clinic here with a cold-like virus, they would recommend, among other things, inhaling steam a few times a day, but they never said it would cure anything, I think it was just supposed to relieve symptoms. _____________________________________________________ Matt University crawford@anl-mcs.arpa Crawford of Chicago ihnp4!oddjob!matt Cure my run-on sentences, please
shor@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Melinda Shore) (10/30/85)
[] The unsubstantiated claim I've heard most recently (I forget where) is that nasal congestion helps fight cold and flu viruses. If air can't circulate through the nasal cavities, heat builds up and kills the little critters. As for me, I think I'd rather have the cold a few extra days and be able to breathe more-or-less freely. -- Melinda Shore ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!shor University of Chicago Computation Center Staff.Melinda%chip@UChicago.Bitnet "Beavers, by teamwork family life!" [Dr. Bronner]
benn@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Thomas Cox) (10/31/85)
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This is a bit off the track beaten so far, so bear with me. I heard from an
unimpeachable source that people who work around ammonia just *don't get
colds.* And after I spent a day [as a busboy] washing walls with an ammonia
solution, I discovered that my sinuses were just amazingly clear. However,
short of a daily snort of ammonia, I guess that once you get the cold you
have to choose between "remedies" and just being comfortable. But our
favorite U of C humanoid Melinda Shore already pointed out, comfort may be
more important. I leave it to you.
yours,
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Thomas Cox
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But of COURSE everything is unique.
If they weren't, they'd all be one thing.werner@aecom.UUCP (Craig Werner) (10/31/85)
It is known that a cold, left to itself, will perist approximately
a week, while aggressive treatment will completely eliminate the disease
in seven days.
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Craig Werner
!philabs!aecom!werner
"The proper delivery of medical care is to do as much Nothing as possible"tuba@ur-tut.UUCP (Jon Krueger) (11/05/85)
In article Thomas Cox writes: >This is a bit off the track beaten so far, so bear with me. I heard from an >unimpeachable source that people who work around ammonia just *don't get >colds.* And after I spent a day [as a busboy] washing walls with an ammonia >solution, I discovered that my sinuses were just amazingly clear. However, >short of a daily snort of ammonia, I guess that once you get the cold you >have to choose between "remedies" and just being comfortable.... At a minimum, you choose between "remedies" and just being confortable. I would venture that you also choose between an unreliable remedy and a reliable environmental toxin. Burns the hell out of membranes such as those found in your nose, throat, eyes, even skin if contact is prolonged. I'd go for the comfort, and retain my sense of sight and smell while I'm at it. -- -- Jon Krueger UUCP: ...seismo!rochester!ur-tut!tuba BITNET: TUBA@UORDBV USMAIL: University of Rochester Taylor Hall Rocheseter, NY 14627 (716) 275-2811 "A Vote for Barry is a Vote for Fun"
pagiven@drutx.UUCP (GivenP) (11/07/85)
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The magazine "American Health," December 1984, page 37, has an
article entitled "Can a Common Metal Cure the Common Cold?" by
Judith Randal. It is supertitled, "Zinc Tablets" and subtitled
"The right dose could shorten your sniffles - but an overdose could
backfire."
For those of us around here who have followed the remedy *strictly
and rigorously*, common colds are gone in two to three days. In
fact, I had cold symptoms this Monday, took the remedy, and today
(Thursday), I woke up with no cold. I know that this evidence is
anecdotal and that during the treatment I wondered which was worse
the cold or the cure: but the treatment didn't seem to be harmful
or have nasty side effects, so what the hell?
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-----------------------------------------------------------------larsen@fisher.UUCP (Michael Larsen) (11/08/85)
> In article Thomas Cox writes: > >This is a bit off the track beaten so far, so bear with me. I heard from an > >unimpeachable source that people who work around ammonia just *don't get > >colds.* And after I spent a day [as a busboy] washing walls with an ammonia > >solution, I discovered that my sinuses were just amazingly clear. However, > >short of a daily snort of ammonia, I guess that once you get the cold you > >have to choose between "remedies" and just being comfortable.... > > At a minimum, you choose between "remedies" and just being confortable. I > would venture that you also choose between an unreliable remedy and a > reliable environmental toxin. Burns the hell out of membranes such as those > found in your nose, throat, eyes, even skin if contact is prolonged. I'd go > for the comfort, and retain my sense of sight and smell while I'm at it. > -- > > -- Jon Krueger > UUCP: ...seismo!rochester!ur-tut!tuba > BITNET: TUBA@UORDBV > USMAIL: University of Rochester > Taylor Hall > Rocheseter, NY 14627 > (716) 275-2811 > "A Vote for Barry is a Vote for Fun" *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***
rpm@hlwpc.UUCP (Dick Muldoon) (11/12/85)
Tim Mikkelsen in <15100001@hpfclp.UUCP> writes: > I also seem to remember a medicated 'kleenex'. Eliot C. Dick (Univ of Minnesota? Wisconsin?) came up with an iodine-treated tissue that was tested at McMurdo Station, Antarctica, as a way of cutting down transmission of cold viruses from the October newcomers to those who'd wintered at the station. Soaked in iodine and wrapped in their own plastic sheaths, the tissues were distributed to everyone on station to be used immediately to wash face and hands after a sneeze or a nose-blow. It worked! Incidence of colds (aka URI--upper respitory infection) declined dramatically. One side-effect however, was a profusion of brown noses, brown hands, brown faces, etc., due to the iodine. On the ice, nobody cared. In NYC I doubt the stuff would sell. I lost track of the work until a picnic some months ago, when I re-met one of the folks who worked on the project. He said they found that using tissues soaked in ascorbic acid was just as effective as using tissues soaked in iodine--and a lot more pleasing cosmetically. (There really *is* something to taking vitamin C for colds; you rub it on your hands and face to kill the virus before it spreads!!!) I don't know for sure, but I think some tissue company is working on a commercial "Cold-Killer" product using the results. (Least I hope so: when I was with National Science Foundation's Antarctic Program we liked to point to this project as one that could have real economic/health returns (as opposed to all the others...)) Dick Muldoon {ihnp4}..hlwpc!rpm (201) 564-4043 HL 1L-413 AT&T Bell Laboratories, Short Hills, NJ
oyster@uwmacc.UUCP (Vicious Oyster) (11/14/85)
In article <628@hlwpc.UUCP> rpm@hlwpc.UUCP (Dick Muldoon) writes: >Tim Mikkelsen in <15100001@hpfclp.UUCP> writes: >> I also seem to remember a medicated 'kleenex'. > >Eliot C. Dick (Univ of Minnesota? Wisconsin?) came up with an >iodine-treated tissue that was tested at McMurdo Station, Antarctica, Not a rumor, but fact! Doctor Dick did the deed, just a block or two away from where I sit now. A friend that works in the same building as Dr. Dick says it's been terrible, because of all the scummy street people that hang around (Dr. Dick pays them to catch colds, then spend a week isolated in a lab while doing his tests-- keep's 'em off the streets...) >I don't know for sure, but I think some tissue company is working >on a commercial "Cold-Killer" product using the results. (Least I I'll confirm that I, too, heard this rumor.
jr@bbncc5.UUCP (John Robinson) (11/14/85)
I read about medicated Kleenex in Consumer's. They were skeptical, but repeated positive trial results. They thought that the medication (don't remember whether it was Vitamin C or something else - but not iodine) might work by killing the germs in your wastebasket, as I recall. I think the product is in test-marketing somewhere, maybe the NE (but I haven't yet seen it). /jr
sdo@faron.UUCP (Sean David O'Neil) (11/15/85)
In article <1239@bbncc5.UUCP> jr@bbncc5.UUCP (John Robinson) writes: >I read about medicated Kleenex in Consumer's. They were skeptical, >but repeated positive trial results. They thought that the medication >(don't remember whether it was Vitamin C or something else - but not >iodine) might work by killing the germs in your wastebasket, as I >recall. > >I think the product is in test-marketing somewhere, maybe the NE (but >I haven't yet seen it). Yes, indeed, the product is in test-marketing. My parents get it in good old Albany, NY. It is called "Avert" and is made by Kleenex. It comes in a blue box with white medical crosses on it. It's been there for a good 8-10 months now, as best I can remember. My mom says it works pretty well for our family. Oh, yeah. It uses vitamin C as the active ingredient. Sean