[net.sport.baseball] can one player run past another?

dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) (06/29/83)

What happens in the following situation:
Player A is on first, and player B, a speedster, is batting.
B hits a very high fly ball to right field and starts running.
Since the ball might be caught, A holds up. By the time the right fielder
has just missed catching the ball and it goes into the corner,
B has caught up with A at first base.

Does B have to stop and let A go ahead to second? I assume both players
can't stop on one base. But what if B could make it to the next base
and A can't?

Dave Sherman
Toronto

mam@unc.UUCP (06/30/83)

If a player passes another player on the basepaths, then the player passed
is out.  This occurred during a 1950's game between Pittsburgh and the
Milwaukee Braves.  Both Harvey Haddix (Pittsburgh) and the Braves Pitcher had
no-hitters going into extra innings.  During the Braves half of the thirteenth,
Henry Aaron hit a double, and the next man up was intentionally walked.  Now,
with men on first and second, the next Brave hit a home-run.  Aaron, thinking
it was a fly-ball which was caught, headed for the dugout, and was passed by
his teammates.  Of course, he was passed and the game ended 2-0 instead of
3-0.

Matthew Merzbacher
(unc!mam)

halle1@houxz.UUCP (06/30/83)

Too bad.  If B passes A, B is out, regardless of the reason.  If A does not
make it to second, he will be out on a force.  If they are both standing on
the base, regardless of relative position, they are deemed to be at the same
place, so no one is out--yet.
P.S.  This answer is a clue to my earlier trivia question re: Hack Wilson

berry@fortune.UUCP (07/01/83)

#R:utcsrgv:-164200:fortune:10500006:000:691
fortune!berry    Jun 30 16:10:00 1983

	RE: Players passing one another

	One runner cannot pass a leading runner.  Well, he can but
he can't touch the next base before a leading runner.  If it happens
the defending team can make an appeal to have the passing runner
called out.  This is an appeal play, not an automatic out.

	Along similar lines a base is mine until I touch the next
base.  In other words, if two runners are both standing on second
the lead runner is legally on the base and the following runner
is liable to be put out by being touched with the ball.  This is true
even if the lead runner has left second to go to third and for some
reason turned around and come back to second.


	David
	harpo!fortune!berry

student@nmtvax.UUCP (07/01/83)

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When B (the batter) runs past A he (B) is out.

Notice that if the two (A & B) are both standing on first base
the fielder should touch A first to get a double play.
If he touches B then A is safe at first.

Sincerely;
Greg Hennessy;
..ucbvax!unmvax!nmtvax!student

berry@fortune.UUCP (07/07/83)

#R:utcsrgv:-164200:fortune:10500007:000:139
fortune!berry    Jul  7 12:03:00 1983

	I stand corrected.  Yes the second runner is out immediately if
he passes the lead runner.


	David (every now and then I blow one) Berry