[net.sport.baseball] Answer to the Combined No-hitter Question

klein@houxt.UUCP (N.KLEIN) (08/17/83)

Finally the answer you have all been waiting for.  Steve Barber and Stu Miller
of the Baltimore Orioles combined for a no-hitter and lost the game.  I seem
to recall the figures 7 walks and 2 errors but am not 100% sure about that.
			NDK

citrin@ucbvax.UUCP (08/18/83)

Actually, there are three answers to your question.  According to the Sporting
News' "1981 Official Baseball Record Book," it happenned:

- May 26, 1956: John Klippstein, Hershell Freeman, and Joe Black of the Reds
  no-hit the Milwaukee Braves while losing 2-1.  Klippstein threw seven innings,
  Freeman threw the eighth, and Black pitched the rest.  Jack Dittmer of the 
  Braves doubled with two out in the tenth for the first hit, and Black lost
  on three hits in 11 innings.

- April 30, 1967: (this is the one mentioned in the original letter) Steve
  Barber and Stu Miller of the Orioles no-hit the Tigers in the first game of a
  double header and lost 2-1.   Barber pitched the first 8-2/3, and Miller
  threw the last 1/3.

- October 5, 1884: Charles Sweeney and Henry Boyle of the St. Louis club of
  the Union Association (a major league back then) no-hit the St. Paul club 
  in a five inning game while losing 1-0.  Sweeney pitched three innings and 
  Boyle threw the last two.

Wayne Citrin
(ucbvax!citrin)

klein@houxt.UUCP (N.KLEIN) (08/23/83)

Actually, there are three answers to your question.  According to the Sporting
News' "1981 Official Baseball Record Book," it happenned:

- May 26, 1956: John Klippstein, Hershell Freeman, and Joe Black of the Reds
 no-hit the Milwaukee Braves while losing 2-1.  Klippstein threw seven innings,
Freeman threw the eighth, and Black pitched the rest.  Jack Dittmer of the 
 Braves doubled with two out in the tenth for the first hit, and Black lost
on three hits in 11 innings.

	That doesn't seem like a no-hitter to me.  It may have been
after 9 innings but the fact is it is still not a no-hitter like the
Steve Barber, Stu Miller game.

jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) (08/23/83)

I was under the impression that a no-hitter had to be a complete game.
I know that nine innings of an 11-inning game is not considered a
complete game, so nine no-hit innings of an 11-inning game should not
be considered a no-hitter.  Therefore, the 1956 11-inning game with
the first nine being no-hit was not a no-hitter.  Please correct me
if I'm wrong.
                                       Jeff Richardson
                                       DCIEM, Toronto