[net.sport.baseball] New York fans, Harry Caray, other stuff...

rkp@drutx.UUCP (Pierce) (07/02/84)

Well, here I go again.

I was watching the doubleheader between Atlanta and New York this
weekend on WTBS.  (I also watched the other games Thursday and
Friday, Saturday was rained out.)  Every time that George Foster
come up to bat, he was booed.  When he played in the field, he was
booed.  But when he came up in the second (?) game of the
double-header on Sunday and hit his 300th career home-run,
everyone gave him a standing ovation.  Doesn't this seem a little
fickle?  The fans kept on cheering, hoping he would come out for a
"tip of the cap," but he wouldn't.  (I'm surprised he didn't come
out and tell the fans where they could stick their applause!)  

I watch quite a bit of baseball (Braves, Mets, Cubs, plus any of
the games of the week, unless it's the American League).  I have
never seen fans act so two-faced as the fans in New York.  Even in
Los Angeles they don't boo; they simply leave the ball-park.  I
don't think that a player needs to be told when he is playing
poorly (except maybe Reggie).  Most players are smart enough to
know when they are doing badly and I think they try to play
better.  Foster is just old and can't play like he used to be able
to play.  That's not his fault.  If the Mets wanted him so badly
to give him such an outrageous contract, they should have thought
first that maybe he was getting too old.  Anyway, I digress.  New
York fans are the worst!!!


On another subject, Harry Caray must be getting senile.  In one
game this weekend with LA, he made the statement "The Cubs are
gathering around the Cardinal dugout to congratulate each other."
Sorry, but St. Louis is about 1500 miles east of LA.  Then, later
on he said, "It doesn't matter how many games you win, it's when
you win them (ala, we really needed this game today)."  I don't
know about you, Harry, but the last time I looked, whoever wins
the most games wins the division.

As far as the races, the Cubbies are back up on top and I hope
they pound the Padres this week.  The Braves need some kind of
help, they aren't scoring any runs.  I see the Cards picked up
Chris Speier (sp) over the weekend for Mike Ramsey to Montreal.
Seems like a pretty even trade.  Any comments?

Glad to see LA lost a series this weekend--hope they loose more
(me? no, I don't hate the Dodgers).

Take care (or take Caray and get him out of the booth)

Russ Pierce
Denver, CO

mp@ganehd.UUCP (Scott Barman @ Univ. of Ga.) (07/04/84)

>I watch quite a bit of baseball (Braves, Mets, Cubs, plus any of
>the games of the week, unless it's the American League).  I have
>never seen fans act so two-faced as the fans in New York.  Even in
>Los Angeles they don't boo; they simply leave the ball-park.  I
>don't think that a player needs to be told when he is playing
>poorly (except maybe Reggie).  Most players are smart enough to
>know when they are doing badly and I think they try to play
>better.  Foster is just old and can't play like he used to be able
>to play.  That's not his fault.  If the Mets wanted him so badly
>to give him such an outrageous contract, they should have thought
>first that maybe he was getting too old.  Anyway, I digress.  New
>York fans are the worst!!!

You claim to watch a bit of baseball and you don't hear the boos?  Come on,
are you deaf?  In LA, they have booed Sax on his errors.  In Anehiem, they
boo Reggie (what makes him immune to the argument).  Last year, Atlanta booed
Washington.  Most players are smart enough to not listen to the crowd when
they are doing badly!  They know it, and the crowd feels that they should keep
reminding them that they are not pleased.  I watch baseball to see some action,
and if a player is not producing like he should, I will boo him too!

Foster is old?  Tell that to Phil Niekro!

I disagree with you, NY fans are the best and most loyal.  The Mets, when they
weren't in contention for first last year, still drew very well for a last place
team.  NY fans are very vocal and are know their sports very well.  How do you
think someone like Billy Martin keeps surviving (or keeps comming back) to NY!
No sir, NY fans love their sports, their teams, and will support them to the
end (just ask any Mets fans)!  You want stupid fans, look at the Braves fans!
Most of them go to the park because it's chic (like in LA) and they never drew
any significant number of fans until 1982.  I remember going to a game with
only 8,000 people in the stands, and this was on a Saturday in 1981!

A LOYAL fan of the Mets/Jets/Nets/Islanders:
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zharnest@aecom.UUCP (07/11/84)

   I resent being called the "worst fan" s" (s) in the world" just because
George Foster gets booed. After all, ticket prices go up and up at Shea
thanx to his 2 Million dollar salary per year. How else can we express
how we feel about him and isn't our privilege to let him know how we
feel? After all we help pay his salary!!!
	
   Cheering for his 300 career Home Run was not a matter of being fickle, it
was just showing appreciation for the fact that the guy just reached
a milestone. I bet that if you asked anyone in the stadium at that 
time they would still say that he was having an awful year.
				
						David Zharnest
...!aecom