rainbow@ihuxe.UUCP (12/12/84)
Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: The Magic Is Back, and Then Some! > GARY CARTER IS THE METS' NEW CATCHER! > Carter, however, is one of the great > catchers of his generation, both defensively and offensively. He > is 30, which means he will probably have only a few more productive > years behind the plate; but I would guess his bat will outlast his > knees, and if he can play other positions, he will be around the > Mets for a good while. The middle of the batting order should > be astounding: Hernandez, Carter, Strawberry, Foster. I recall when the cubs made some shrewd trades last year the mets jumped up and down screaming its not fair, the cubs went out and bought a pennant. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, everything is ok. I see where you are coming from. Well, at least your not pretending to condemn the Mets behaviour while gloating inside. In any case, you'll have to forgive me for not congradulating the mets on their crime(trade theft) and wishing the mets the best of luck. Rather I'll call the expos ignorant fools. >If I were pitching for another NL team, I would take a high colonic before >I went to the mound. . . . How short your memory is. I doubt even Carter can boost your anemic offense against the cub pitching.
rs55611@ihuxk.UUCP (Robert E. Schleicher) (12/12/84)
I was in Canada when the Carter trade news broke (in Toronto and Ottawa, though, not Montreal), and the fan opinion there appears to be basically against the trade, as you'd expect. However, interviews with other Expos were not all that negative. Steve Rogers (who would also appear to be up for near-future trades) had some nice things to say about the incoming players, and pointed out that Carter's total performance over the past two years has been slightly erratic. In 83 Carter had a very good defensive year, but slipped markedly on offense. After criticism from the Montreal management, Carter vowed to improve his offensive performance. He certainly did this in 1984, with a very fine offensive year. According to Rogers, though, his play behind the plate was merely average last year, with big increases in passed balls, and very marginal performance in throwing out people stealing 2nd. I got the impression that many of the Expos were secretly liking the trade, possibly because without Carter around, media and fan attention would increase for the rest of the team. Bob Schleicher ihuxk!rs55611 PS - The Toronto paper (or was it Ottawa) had a big headline about Carter leaving, and then a much smaller article about the arriving Mets players. The headline of this smaller article was "Who are these guys, anyway?" (although fans up there are presumably at least familiar with Hubie Brooks).
ktw@whuxi.UUCP (WOLMAN) (12/14/84)
I'm not one of the people who claimed the Cubs "bought" themselves a team. No more than did the Mets or any other team in this crazy market. Nor am I gloating: the season hasn't started yet, so far as I know, and I'm not going to say much in the way of "Tee-hee" until the Mets have a 24-game lead going into mid-September. If they do. I mean, I'm a fan, but I'm not crazy either! As for the "puny offense": come on, ChiFan, be fair. Yes, the Cubs were better than the Mets: you beat the hell out of us. In fact, the only team that kept us out of first place was the Cubs because of those beatings. I suspect it will be a bit different this year. Ken Wolman whuxi!ktw
gadfly@ihu1m.UUCP (Gadfly) (12/14/84)
-- >> I'm not one of the people who claimed the Cubs "bought" >> themselves a team. No more than did the Mets or any other >> team in this crazy market... >> Ken Wolman I'm not either, but it's true. Today's Chicago Tribune featured the final "payroll standings" of all the major league clubs with their actual finish position in parentheses. *LAST* in the NL East payroll--the Mets. *FIRST*--the Cubs. So the Mets actually got a lot more "bang for the buck." Other bargains, near the bottom on payroll but near the top in games won, were Minnesota and Toronto. Unfortunately, no dollar figures are given, only rankings. -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 13 Dec 84 [23 Frimaire An CXCIII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7188 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***
sherm@wucs.UUCP (Sherman Lee) (12/14/84)
<> > I'm not one of the people who claimed the Cubs "bought" > themselves a team. No more than did the Mets or any other > team in this crazy market. Nor am I gloating: the season > hasn't started yet, so far as I know, and I'm not going to say > much in the way of "Tee-hee" until the Mets have a 24-game > lead going into mid-September. If they do. I mean, I'm a > fan, but I'm not crazy either! As for the "puny offense": > come on, ChiFan, be fair. Yes, the Cubs were better than the > Mets: you beat the hell out of us. In fact, the only team that ^ | | really?? ----' Come on, not the *only* team. Being able to see the Mets only at Busch stadium or on network/Cardinal TV (Someday, St. Louis will have cable), I saw the Mets win none of their games at Busch in the second half of the season, and very few at Shea during that period. I don't recall exactly, but if the Mets could have split their games with the Cards last year, they would have won the division. > kept us out of first place was the Cubs because of those > beatings. I suspect it will be a bit different this year. > It should be different this year. At least Met fans are excited for the first time in years. The best thing about all of these winter dreams is that Cashen/Johnson are thinking long-term rebuilding for the future. As for the Cards: bye bye mega-bucks Sutter (you're not worth your own parking spot with a fence around it), and so long to "Silent" George Hendrick; Whitey's going to have a tough time without you. ------------------- Sherman Lee Drug Design Group Washington University in St. Louis -- _________________________________________________________________________ Sherman Lee
david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (12/16/84)
True, the Mets dropped two series to the Cards in August and September, but over the course of the season, I think the Mets and Cards split their season series. David Rubin