kaufman@uiucdcs.UUCP (kaufman ) (03/30/84)
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uiucdcs!kaufman Mar 29 14:50:00 1984
<This line had over 18 inches of pine tar on it>
Ok - here they are. I can make as big a fool of myself as anyone else,
so here are my 1984 Baseball Predictions (any similarity between them and the
results of this season are sheer coincidence.)
AL East AL West NL East NL West
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1) Detroit Chicago Pittsburgh San Diego
2) Baltimore Oakland Montreal Los Angeles
3) Toronto Texas St. Louis Houston
4) New York Minnesota New York Atlanta
5) Milwaukee Kansas City Philadelphia San Francisco
6) Cleveland California Chicago Cincinnati
7) Boston Seattle
World Series: Pittsburgh over Detroit.
Feel free to post conflicting (or concurring) opinions.
I'd rather be Commissioner than right.
Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)challou@uiucdcs.UUCP (challou ) (03/31/84)
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uiucdcs!challou Mar 30 23:20:00 1984
AL East AL West NL East NL West
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1) Baltimore Chicago St. Louis Atlanta
2) Detroit Oakland Montreal San Diego
3) New York Texas Pittsburgh San Francisco
4) Toronto Minnesota New York Los Angeles
5) Milwaukee Kansas City Philadelphia Houston
6) Boston California Chicago Cincinnati
7) Cleveland Seattle
World Series : Baltimore over all/any comers.
As a longtime Yankee fan, it really disgusts me to make this prediction
but the facts are there. Baltimore won the A.L. and the pennant on
the strength of its pitching, defense, and fundamental baseball sense.
The pitching is even better this year, and the rest will be as good
as last year if not improved. Detroit pulls up short even though
they have an excellent club - I don't think they have the horses to
run with the Birds. The AL west is pretty much wrapped up already -
Chicago. Hopefully Britt Burns can pull the Sox past the birds in
the playoffs but it is very doubtful. The N.L. is really up for
grabs in both divisions and if a cinderella wins, they could stop the
birds from repeating but that is doubtful also. My cinderella pick
is the Giants (it would have been the mets but they lost Seaver again).
Please Remember these are just my opinions, and if yours differ, just
post them as the prediction originator suggested.
-war weary,
Dan Challoump@ganehd.UUCP (Scott Barman @ Univ. of Ga.) (04/08/84)
My predictions for 1984:
AL East AL West NL East NL West
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1) Baltimore Chicago Montreal San Diego
2) Detroit Texas Pittsburgh Los Angeles
3) Toronto Minnesota St. Louis Atlanta
4) Milwaukee Oakland New York San Francisco
5) New York Kansas City Philadelphia Houston
6) Boston California Chicago Cincinnati
7) Cleveland Seattle
Championship Series: AL: Baltimore in 4 games
NL: Montreal in 5 games.
World Series : Baltimore in 4 games.
For all you misguided souls, the Braves will never win it until a) they get a
pitching staff and b) get a manager who knows how to manage!
<I sat in Atlanta Stadium one day last year listening to
a 12 year old girl second guess Torre successfully>
Chicago will run away with the AL West.
Baltimore will have it wrapped up by the second weekend in September.
San Diego and Los Angeles will fight the NL West to the end. Atlanta will
self-desctruct in August (as usual).
The NL East will be fun! Chicago will not be involved in the five team race.
Philadelphia will be out of it by mid-August, New York will be out by Labor
Day. This will leave the top three to race for the title that will go down
to the last day with possibly a one game play-off between Montreal and
Pittsburgh.
This year's possible Cinderella's:
Detroit Tigers: Good all around, but basically young.
New York Mets: Seaver is 39 and not really worth a fight over.
Good hitting, decent fielding (with the usuall hole at
third base). Need a little stronger pitching staff.
Flames welcomed (and will be laughed at).
Scott Barman
..!akgua!ganehd!mp
**** LETS GO METS ****rsg@cbscc.UUCP (Bob Garmise) (04/10/84)
Can anyone get in on this? Ok, here goes...
AL East AL West NL East NL West
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1) Detroit Chicago Montreal Los Angeles
2) Milwaukee California St. Louis San Diego
3) Baltimore Kansas City Philadelphia Atlanta
4) Cleveland Texas Pittsburgh San Francisco
5) New York Oakland New York Cincinnati
6) Toronto Seattle Chicago Houston
7) Boston Minnesota
Championship Series: AL: Chicago in 6 games
NL: Montreal in 6 games.
World Series : Montreal in 7 games.
Most improved team: Cleveland Indians...4th is pessimistic
Also much improved: Cincinnati Reds...move up to 5th...maybe 4th
...bob garmise...at&t bell labs, columbus...david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (04/13/84)
As long as we're getting this all off our chests, I'd like to throw in my proverbial two cents. Here goes: NL East NL West AL East AL West ------- ------- ------- ------- 1) Philadelphia Los Angeles Baltimore Chicago 2) Montreal San Diego Detroit Oakland 3) Pittsburgh Atlanta Toronto Texas 4) New York Houston New York Minnesota 5) St. Louis Cincinnati Milwaukee Kansas City 6) Chicago San Fransisco Boston California 7) Cleveland Seattle Any one who wishes to critique my American League picks probably has a damn good case; I pay only passing attention to the junior (aka mutant) circuit. However, if someone out in fandom wishes to ridicule my National League picks, I stand ready, willing, and, most importantly, able to defend my picks. David I. Rubin
schneider@vlnvax.DEC (02/07/85)
> 1985 MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL GUESSTIMATES > > NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE > > EAST WEST EAST WEST > > New York Atlanta Detroit Chicago > Chicago San Diego Toronto Minnesota > Pittsburgh Los Angeles Boston Oakland > Philadelphia Houston Baltimore Kansas City > Montreal Cincinnati New York California > St. Louis San Fransisco Cleveland Seattle > Milwaukee Texas > Whooaa!! Hold on there. As a self-described AL East expert I beg to disagree. If the Yankees finish behind the Red Sox I'll eat my hat or cry for a week or both. The Sox may look good, but its a bit much to expect their three young pitchers (Clemans,Boyd,and ???) to become big winners with about 4 months of major league ball behind them. Their starting lineup is quite good (even taking into account Fenway) but getting on in age. My analysis is they'll go as far as the staff will take them which might be in front of Baltimore (a lot of trouble spots, but look for big things from Freddie Lynn) to fourth. The Yankees should come in at least third and if any of their pitching questions are answered they can go all the way. Removing the contingencies I'd say it looks like this: Toronto, Detroit, New York, Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Milwaukee. Its definitely the most competitive division in baseball and therefore probably the most interesting. If we can get some discussion rolling I'll get in depth. Until then I'll let you off easy. Daniel Schneider {...decvax}!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-vlnvax!schneider
ugclemon@sunybcs.UUCP (Robert Clemons) (02/13/85)
> If the Yankees finish behind the Red Sox I'll eat my hat or > cry for a week or both. The Sox may look good, but its a bit > much to expect their three young pitchers (Clemans,Boyd,and ???) to become > big winners with about 4 months of major league ball behind them. Their > starting lineup is quite good (even taking into account Fenway) but > getting on in age. My analysis is they'll go as far as the staff will > take them ... I don't see how anyone but a Yankee fan would cry for a week if the Red Sox finished ahead of the Bombers. I don't see it as unlikely (or undesireable) as you seem to. The Sox don't need a great pitching staff to do well with the hitting they've been getting. For example, last season Boston hit .283 as a team (810 runs, 181 HRs) and the Yanks hit .276 (758 runs, 130 HRs). While Boston pitchers had a combined ERA of 4.18, the Yankee staff reported in with 3.78. The result : the Yanks finish ONE game ahead. Now, age isn't going to slow the Sox hitting that much. The old guys (Armas, Rice, Evans, Easler, Buckner) all had great years last year and can be expected to continue doing well for a couple of seasons. I don't expect Boggs, Barrett, Gedman, and Gutierrez to slow for quite a while. The pitching staff is young and can only get better. Judging from last season, if just one of the young starters has a banner year he could carry the team to a division title. The relievers can be counted on to carry the team over some rough spots. If this is a normal year for Boston, everyone will pick them to finish 5th and they will end up 3rd or 4th. I don't think this will be a normal year (just a hunch). They should lose the division down the stretch to Detroit. I don't know a whole lot about the Yanks but it looks as though last year they had too many mediocre players and old, washed up, pitchers. I do know that the AL East should be very competitive as usual and anyone (except Cleveland) could win it with an amazing year, assuming of course, that no one runs away with it like last year. My Picks: Detroit 99 63 Boston 98 64 Toronto 89 73 New York 87 75 Baltimore 82 80 Milwaukee 75 87 Cleveland 73 89 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- "A man's got to know his limitations." -- Harry Robert Clemons SUNY @ Buffalo csnet : ugclemon@buffalo arpanet : ugclemon%buffalo@csnet-relay uucp : ..{burdvax,rocksvax,decvax,rocksanne,watmath}!sunybcs!ugclemon
dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky) (04/11/85)
[] What the hell ... 1985 Predictions (Top finisher in each division) AL East - Toronto AL West - Kansas City NL East - METS!!! NL West - Atlanta Isaac Dimitrovsky
samuels@h-sc1.UUCP (ronald samuels) (04/12/85)
> 1985 Predictions (Top finisher in each division) > > AL East - Toronto > AL West - Kansas City > NL East - METS!!! > NL West - Atlanta > > Isaac Dimitrovsky I agree with all accept Atlanta, I think San Diego will do it again, and I most certainly agree with the NL east METS!!!! How can Sports Illustrated pick them #2 (behind Chicago) when the picked up Gary Carter. Yeah, I know they've got pitching problems, but with Orosco & Sisk in the bullpen, and Gooden and Darling 1,2 they should be okay. The only thing to really worry about is depth, they've got a lot of young kids on the bench. I also found it interesting that SI picked the Mets #2 in the NL east, and #5 in the country. Even with the downfall of some of the other NL east teams the east in the NL as well as the AL seems to still be the stronger division. See ya all in shea this summer. -- Ron Samuels Harvard University Science Center ...harvard!h-sc1!samuels (or better yet) ...harvard!h-sc4!samuels_b
jimph@ihlpg.UUCP (Jim Hendricks) (04/15/85)
> [] > > What the hell ... > > 1985 Predictions (Top finisher in each division) > > AL East - Toronto > AL West - Kansas City > NL East - METS!!! > NL West - Atlanta > > Isaac Dimitrovsky AL East - Detroit AL West - Chicago NL East - Chicago NL West - Atlanta AL Champ - Detroit NL Champ - Chicago World Champ - Chicago
jmh@ltuxa.UUCP (cecw 64lt503310-Jon Mcecw) (04/16/85)
I guess these sound good ... AL East - Brewers, or maybe the Cleveland given the tradition of the Indians. AL West - Texas if the Rangers hitting and pitching and fielding "holds up". NL East - St. Louis, any team that signs a .238 hitter who has hit an average of one home run per season for $2,000,000 a year, must know something. NL West - San Francisco - Ironic the year before they move, eh? Then again, these MAY be wrong. Jon Hanrath ihnp4!ltuxa!jmh
nucomp@ihuxb.UUCP (cjw) (04/17/85)
> National League East > > 1) mets > 2) CUBS > HA - HA - HA Yea, Right. As soon as the entire CUBS team gets kidnapped by a spaceship full of Martians. The CUBS did it to the mets last year and the Cubs will do it again this year. Revenge is sweet. THE CUBS WILL KICK A** IN '85
csc@watmath.UUCP (Computer Sci Club) (04/24/85)
>> National League East >> >> 1) mets >> 2) CUBS >> > >HA - HA - HA > Yea, Right. As soon as the entire CUBS team gets kidnapped >by a spaceship full of Martians. The CUBS did it to the mets last year >and the Cubs will do it again this year. Revenge is sweet. > > THE CUBS WILL KICK A** IN '85 > What??? How can the Mets lose with Sidd Finch? :-) Gilles Dignard University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario And here in the studio with us is the holder of the record for 'Most Consecutive Perfect Games', with 14 games...