[net.sport.baseball] Players

urquhart@utcs.UUCP (Prof. A. Urquhart) (05/24/85)

Would someone who knows what's going on be kind enough to explain
what the dispute between the players and the owners is really all
about? I would also welcome an explanation of the 'free agent draft'
and the compensations to which teams are allowed.

The general feeling in the Toronto media is that ball players
are payed well enough and are just plain greedy. But it seems to me
that if salaries are as high as they are it is because owners are
willing to pay that much. So any ceiling on salaries imposed by the
owners are going to be only to their advantage (they are not going to
lower the price of tickets are they?). Why not allow players the
freedom of playing for the highest bidder?

Hoping for no strike.

Andre Vellino
Department of Philosophy
University of Toronto

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Andre Vellino
Department of Philosophy
University of Toronto

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david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) (05/28/85)

> Would someone who knows what's going on be kind enough to explain
> what the dispute between the players and the owners is really all
> about?

That's easy: money.  The owners wish to minimize payrolls, the players
wish to maximize them.  At the center of the struggle is how much
freedom to allow a player in selling his services.  In the
antedeluvian era (a.k.a. before the Flood (sic)), the owners had an
ideal situation: the players were bound to the teams, greatly
depressing salaries.  The ideal situation for the players (at least
the ones good enough to hold down full-time major league jobs) would be
a free market for their services from the dawn of their professional
careers.  Neither is ideal for the fans; the first depresses the
level of competition by making a baseball career less attractive, and
the second would severely disrupt instutional loyalties.  And the LONG
term interests of both players and owners require the third group be
happy, creating some self-interest in sacrificing their own "ideal"
situations for the "good of baseball (read: the fans)".

>......I would also welcome an explanation of the 'free agent draft'
> and the compensations to which teams are allowed.

Each team which loses a "Type-A" (top 20%) or "Type-B" (top 50%, I
think) player via free-agency is entitled to compensation.  For the
first, it is the selection of any unprotected player from any
organization (each team may protect 40); for the latter, it a draft
pick.  The formulae are sufficiently abstruse to bollux estimation up,
and teams with substantial minor league talent cannot cover
themselves.  Thus the White Sox GAINED when they lost Dennis Lamp to
the Blue Jays, as the Mets felt compelled to protect their blue-chip
minor leaguers and gamble that the White Sox, with a strong starting
rotation, wouldn't gamble on an aging starter with strong New York ties;
thus Seaver moved over to the AL.  Neither players nor owners are
satisfied with this arrangement.  The former would drop compensation
altogether, while the latter would limit it to clubs that signed free
agents (thus discouraging free agency).

> The general feeling in the Toronto media is that ball players
> are payed well enough and are just plain greedy. But it seems to me
> that if salaries are as high as they are it is because owners are
> willing to pay that much. So any ceiling on salaries imposed by the
> owners are going to be only to their advantage (they are not going to
> lower the price of tickets are they?).

Bullseye.

>..........................................Why not allow players the
> freedom of playing for the highest bidder?

Why not?  Because teams in small markets will be blown out of the
water.  The cable teams will especially profit, particularly the Cubs,
as Chicago still refuses to share any cable revenue (the Braves, Mets,
Yankees, and Rangers have reached agreements with the Commmisioner's
Office).  Some degree of restriction, especially for young players, is
necessary, else no one will have any incentive to develop players.

> Hoping for no strike.

Best reason to hope: the owners couldn't get strike insurance this
time around.

					David Rubin