[net.sport.baseball] A Question

b-jones@ttidca.UUCP (Bill Jones) (07/30/85)

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Has any pitcher ever pitched a no hitter and lost the game?

Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
not gotten the win?

scooper@brl-tgr.ARPA (Stephan Cooper ) (07/31/85)

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>Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
>not gotten the win?


I cant remember his name right-offhand, but there was a guy back in the
60s for the Pirates...he pitched, I believe a perfect game for over 9
innings (10 or so) but they still lost in the late innings 1-0.
Ill check on it, but Im sure by the time I do, someone else on the net
will have suuplied this answer.

dpb@philabs.UUCP (Paul Benjamin) (07/31/85)

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> Has any pitcher ever pitched a no hitter and lost the game?
> 
> Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
> not gotten the win?

A number of pitchers have pitched no-hitters and lost the game
due to unearned runs, or runs walked in.

Harvey Haddix pitched a 12-inning perfect game, but lost in the
13th, 1-0. Sorry, but I forget the date. I believe the opponent
was the Milwaukee Braves. He was pitching for Pittsburgh.

pfeiffer@uwvax.UUCP (Phil Pfeiffer) (07/31/85)

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> Has any pitcher ever pitched a no hitter and lost the game?
> 
> Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
> not gotten the win?

I don't remember all the details, but here goes ...

Pittsburgh Pirates vs. the Milwaukee Braves, sometime during the summer
of 1959.  The game must have been played in Milwaukee, since the Braves
won it in the bottom of the thirteenth.  Harvey Haddix pitched twelve
perfect innings, losing the perfect game in the bottom of the thirteenth
when Don Hoak, a golden-glove-caliber third baseman for the Pirates, committed
an error.  The next batter (Eddie Mathews, I believe) won the game for the
Braves with a book-rule double.  There was something about Mathews originally
being credited with a home run.  If a book-rule double won the game for
Milwaukee, then Hoak must have committed a two-base (throwing?) error.

Also, as I recall, Bob Skinner, the Pittsburgh left fielder, hit a ball in
the fifth or sixth inning that would have been a home run had the wind not
been blowing in.

Anyone remember who was pitching for Milwaukee?  That would have been during
the Spahn era, no?

--- Phil Pfeiffer

nyssa@abnji.UUCP (nyssa of traken) (08/05/85)

>>Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
>>not gotten the win?
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>I cant remember his name right-offhand, but there was a guy back in the
>60s for the Pirates...he pitched, I believe a perfect game for over 9
>innings (10 or so) but they still lost in the late innings 1-0.
>Ill check on it, but Im sure by the time I do, someone else on the net
>will have suuplied this answer.

Harvey Haddix pitched a perfect game for 12 innings and lost in the
thriteenth.

Many pitchers have lost no hit games.
-- 
James C Armstrong, Jnr.   ihnp4!abnji!nyssa

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