[net.sport.baseball] losing a no-hitter

schneider@vlnvax.DEC (08/03/85)

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>Has any pitcher ever pitched a no hitter and lost the game?

Many times, including the answer to your next question.  The one who comes
into my mind is Jim Maloney, a hard throwing pitcher for the Reds in the
early to mid sixties.  To the best of my recollection, he threw two
no-hitters, losing one and the other went into extra innings.  I'm tempted
to say he won that one.

>Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
>not gotten the win?

Harvey (The Kitten) Haddix in 1959 for Pittsburgh pitched 11 perfect
innings against the Milwaukee Braves before Felix Mantilla doubled, (I
believe that Aaron then got on on an error) and Joe Adcock homered.

Daniel Schneider
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Posted:	Fri 2-Aug-1985 11:06 EDT
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pete@umcp-cs.UUCP (Pete Cottrell) (08/07/85)

>>Has any pitcher ever pitched a no hitter and lost the game?
>
>Many times, including the answer to your next question.  The one who comes
>into my mind is Jim Maloney, a hard throwing pitcher for the Reds in the
>early to mid sixties.  To the best of my recollection, he threw two
>no-hitters, losing one and the other went into extra innings.  I'm tempted
>to say he won that one.
>

Maloney pitched 10 innings of no-hit, no-run ball against the Mets,
allowing 2 hits in the 11th and lost 1-0 on June 14th, 1965. Then, on
August 19th of the same year, he pitched a 10-inning no-hitter against
the Cubs. This time he won 1-0.

>>Has any pitcher ever pitched a perfect game for nine innings and
>>not gotten the win?
>
>Harvey (The Kitten) Haddix in 1959 for Pittsburgh pitched 11 perfect
>innings against the Milwaukee Braves before Felix Mantilla doubled, (I
>believe that Aaron then got on on an error) and Joe Adcock homered.
>

This is the 2nd different account I've seen of the game, and I will
add a third that I've always believed to be correct. I say that Felix
Mantilla either walked or was safe on an error to break up the perfect
game, and then came home on Joe Adcock's double. Who has the definitive
answer?
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halle@hou2b.UUCP (J.HALLE) (08/09/85)

Joe Adcock homered, but he passed a runner while rounding the bases,
so he is only credited with a single or double, and the score was 1-0.